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Old 07-24-2008, 07:37 AM
 
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Many illegal immigrants avoid census questionarres or lie on them. I doubt your illegal immigrant numbers are accurate at all.
Here's the quote again, check the links' sources and go argue with the Census Bureau.

"In reality, Obama’s 47 million figure came from the U.S. Census Bureau (http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/health_care_insurance/009789.html - broken link) (it has since revised the figure down to about 45 million) which counts about 9 million of the uninsured as “non-citizens.” Presumably, a significant chunk of those 9 million are legal residents. So one wonders where Morris got his numbers from. Furthermore, Obama’s health care plan speaks of “Providing affordable, comprehensive and portable health coverage for every American” (my emphasis). Nowhere is there mention of providing coverage for anyone else. There is no mention of providing health care to immigrants in Obama’s immigration platform, either."

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Obama's plan is:

Higher taxes, huge taxes.......
Socialized medicine, lots of govt control
Penalizing small businesses

Sorry we can do much better than that. Obama is a hack.
American Small Business League and Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Economy

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Health Care

McCain vs Obama on taxes - Fact Checker
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:49 AM
 
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I would direct people to look at my website if you have questions regarding my policies. Any secondary source, be it newscasts, pundit talkshows, radio, or magazines will invariably introduce bias into their reports, intentionally or not. Just as I learned in law school, primary sources are the most reliable source of information. From these sources you can make a direct interpretation and come to your own personal conclusions. Removing yourself and basing beliefs on secondary sources more easily leads to misinterpretation of facts and intents.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Default Contradictions?

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Dick Morris claims that BO's 47M people to be covered by socialist heath care system will not include 12 to 15M illegals. BO's campaign rejects that. WSJ and GOA back up Dick.

BO's campaign silent... BO supporters too stupid to question?... or is it indifference?
So let's look at this. Are you upset Senator Obama isn't including 12-15Million illegal immigrants in his healthcare plan? You also state Senator Obama rejects this claim. Can you show us where he supports the claim to include 12-15Million Illegal immigrants into his healthcare plan?

I've looked at the link you provided. Where does it support or indicate Senator Obama's healthcare plan encompasses illegal immigrants?
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:31 AM
 
Location: At my computador
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Just as I learned in law school, primary sources are the most reliable source of information.
Really, Barack? You learned in school that the best source of an unbiased account of something is to seek out biased sources?

That's one wacky school you went to.


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I've looked at the link you provided. Where does it support or indicate Senator Obama's healthcare plan encompasses illegal immigrants?
Read it. It took me too long to read it the first time for me to pre-digest it for you.

I'm not clear why you're questioning me anyway. If he included all of central America in his plan, you'd gladly drink the Kool-Aid anyway.

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So let's look at this. Are you upset Senator Obama isn't including 12-15Million illegal immigrants in his healthcare plan?
What are you, my therapist? Why are you asking about my feelings? I don't roll like that.

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You also state Senator Obama rejects this claim. Can you show us where he supports the claim to include 12-15Million Illegal immigrants into his healthcare plan?
Soooo... by that rationale, someone hunched over your naked wife, in the middle of night, genitals exposed and holding a knife shouldn't be assumed to be a rapist until he says "I'm going to rape you?"

Hmm... something escapes me with that one...
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:02 AM
 
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^^ In other words....
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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^^ In other words....
He/she has nothing to say?
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