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Old 07-24-2008, 10:56 AM
 
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Student interviewers use a computer-assisted telephone interviewing system to collect data from statewide and national residents. For a typical public opinion survey, a randomly selected sample of about 1,000 registered voters age 18 and over is interviewed over five or six days. The polls are conducted at the Polling Institute on West Woods Road, close to the main campus.

From the link regarding the polling timeline etc.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The poll also showed Republican Senate candidate Bob ******** surging with voters compared with last month. He is now tied with Democrat Mark Udall, while last month Udall led by 10 points.
I've been watching this race. The dems were ecstatic about Udall's lead that has virtually disappeared in this poll.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:58 AM
 
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Obama didn't support going there in the first place.
He's lucky he didn't have a vote.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:59 AM
 
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Voters in each state say energy policy is more important than the war in Iraq. And by margins of 22 to 31 percentage points, voters in each state support offshore oil drilling, and by seven to 12-point margins, drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge

from the link, seems as if the driving issue for these non ocean bordering states is off shore drilling and not Iraq or foreign policy so you may want to guide your debate as such.
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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I've been watching this race. The dems were ecstatic about Udall's lead that has virtually disappeared in this poll.
I wouldn't get too excited, the Republicans are going to lose seats in the Senate..there's really no way around it.

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He's lucky he didn't have a vote.
4124 Americans dead thousands more disabled for life, in a war based on lies, and all you can do is act like a cheerleader.
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:03 AM
 
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Yes I even posted a thread that their off shore drilling position would hurt the Democrats and Obama and it appears that these polls and THEIR analysis of THEIR data and polling question would support that. Unless prices fall it will continue to hurt them.
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Yet if he had it to do over again, he would still not support the surge - in which case the possibility of getting out of there with a functioning Iraqi government and security force in the next couple of years would not be possible.
You can't fault someone for believing as they do. Diplomacy may have had as much success if the attempt had been made and fully supported, but hey, that's water under the bridge. This argument fails to take into account many of the things besides the surge that have led to a reduction in violence. Regardless Senator Obama has been very clear in acknowledging the surge's effectiveness in it's role of reducing violence in Iraq. The surge was an augmentation to an effort that was already underway by the Iraqi's themselves. The purpose of the surge has not been fully met, and it's probably pre-mature to call the entire effort a success until all of the benchmarks have been met. We'll see how the GAO reacts to the "progress" made thus far.

The simplest way to approach this is if, we had been in the correct theater, there would be much rejoicing over the results - but then that would also mean the troops were coming home, and they're not, are they?

In 2005 President Bush declared Afghanistan safe, our friends, and the terrorists quelled - perhaps Senator McCain can explain what happened? It is a victory when we reduce an Al Queda presence that did not exist in the theater (Iraq) prior to US presence. Isn't this a strange occasion for celebration?
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Yes I even posted a thread that their off shore drilling position would hurt the Democrats and Obama and it appears that these polls and THEIR analysis of THEIR data and polling question would support that. Unless prices fall it will continue to hurt them.
It hurts them because the message has been mis-managed. A realistic look at the time to market throws out the viability of an energy policy with a micro-managed message implying "opening up the US to drilling will lower gas prices now". The truth is "a change in the US drilling policy will not bring oil to market for over ten years". This is the case with drilling and oil shale - in fact the Denver Post just published an article verifying this fact regarding oil shale.

It's not politics stalling oil shale



By The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 07/23/2008 08:18:39 PM MDT

"Even Shell Oil, a leader in exploring oil shale, says it won't be ready for commercial leasing until probably 2015. Extraction of commercial quantities of oil, according to a quote in The Post, will come almost a decade after that."

Change Drilling Policy today, lower prices in 2025?
Stop speculation, lower prices -it's already working. When else have we seen gas prices drop with a hurricane in Texas?
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:01 PM
 
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4124 Americans dead thousands more disabled for life, in a war based on lies, and all you can do is act like a cheerleader.
Well, I guess you could say obama is a cheerleader for more dead and wounded, since his position on the surge would have caused just that.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:21 PM
 
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Well, I guess you could say obama is a cheerleader for more dead and wounded, since his position on the surge would have caused just that.
Be nice if you could prove this hunh? But I suppose you'd have to ignore or confuse the timeline of events surrounding the surge, to do so.
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