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Old 07-24-2008, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Presidential Swing States (CO, MI, MN & WI) Poll * July 24, 2008 * McCain Closes In On Obama In F - Quinnipiac University

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Sen. McCain has picked up support in almost every group in every state, especially among independent voters and men voters. The Republican now leads Obama among independent voters in Michigan and Minnesota. Overall results show:

Colorado: McCain is up by a nose 46 - 44 percent, compared to a 49 - 44 percent Obama lead June 26;

Michigan: Obama tops McCain 46 - 42 percent, compared to a 48 - 42 percent lead last time;

Minnesota: Obama edges ahead 46 - 44 percent, compared to a 54 - 37 percent Obama lead;

Wisconsin: Obama leads McCain 50 - 39 percent, compared to 52 - 39 percent.
I wonder if this has anything to do with his trip?

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Obama leads 50 - 39 percent among Colorado women likely voters, while men back McCain 55 - 37 percent. White voters back McCain 51 - 41 percent as Hispanic voters go with Obama 57 - 29 percent. Obama leads 51 - 43 percent with voters 18 to 34 years old, while voters 35 to 54 are tied 46 - 46 percent. McCain leads 51 - 37 percent among voters over 55.
The surprising thing here is the 18-34 year olds - only 7 points. I would have thought a much higher number.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:39 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I doubt it.

Ken
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I don't know.

His position of not supporting the surge, even with what he knows now and the success of the tactics, is just not going to play well with most voters.

Just doesn't make any sense. Well, it does if you take into account his left-wing base would be fit to be tied if he admitted he was wrong. He can't do that so he has to walk this ridiculous tightrope he's strung up for himself.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:46 AM
 
Location: 44.9800° N, 93.2636° W
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oh I love this "polls dont matter until I dig around in the dirt and find one that shows the lead narrowing" attitude.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Rasmussen Poll (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/colorado/election_2008_colorado_presidential_election - broken link) in Colorado of 2 days ago has Obama up by 7% with leaners it's 3%.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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I don't know.

His position of not supporting the surge, even with what he knows now and the success of the tactics, is just not going to play well with most voters.

Just doesn't make any sense. Well, it does if you take into account his left-wing base would be fit to be tied if he admitted he was wrong. He can't do that so he has to walk this ridiculous tightrope he's strung up for himself.
Where's the discrepancy?

Couric: But talking microcosmically, did the surge, the addition of 30,000 additional troops ... help the situation in Iraq?

Obama: Katie, as … you've asked me three different times, and I have said repeatedly that there is no doubt that our troops helped to reduce violence. There's no doubt.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Colorado will be interesting to watch as there is also a Senate seat up for grabs and that race seems to be as close as polls are showing McCain and Obama in the state.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9982870
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Where's the discrepancy?

Couric: But talking microcosmically, did the surge, the addition of 30,000 additional troops ... help the situation in Iraq?

Obama: Katie, as … you've asked me three different times, and I have said repeatedly that there is no doubt that our troops helped to reduce violence. There's no doubt.
Yet if he had it to do over again, he would still not support the surge - in which case the possibility of getting out of there with a functioning Iraqi government and security force in the next couple of years would not be possible.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Yet if he had it to do over again, he would still not support the surge - in which case the possibility of getting out of there with a functioning Iraqi government and security force in the next couple of years would not be possible.
Obama didn't support going there in the first place. In that case, 4124 American lives would have been saved.

Don't war supporters ever think of the dead?
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yet if he had it to do over again, he would still not support the surge - in which case the possibility of getting out of there with a functioning Iraqi government and security force in the next couple of years would not be possible.
Let me just highlight your intelligent answer.
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