U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-14-2008, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Chicago
4,681 posts, read 9,656,135 times
Reputation: 3177

Advertisements

Perhaps the one's doing the fighting aren't as excited about indefinate war with Iraq, expanding into a new Cold War with Russia, as McCain and his neocon advisors.

OpenSecrets | Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 to Obama - Capital Eye

However, in fairness to McCain, Big Oil is doing their part to offset (broken link) what deployed soldiers are donating to Obama.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-14-2008, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
15,400 posts, read 27,738,940 times
Reputation: 19078
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdiddy View Post
Perhaps the one's doing the fighting aren't as excited about indefinate war with Iraq, expanding into a new Cold War with Russia, as McCain and his neocon advisors.

OpenSecrets | Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 to Obama - Capital Eye
Interesting, especially the chart.

Donations to Obama: $60,642
Donations to Ron Paul: $45,512
Donations to McCain: $10,665

Hillary Clinton is at the bottom of the list, after Huckabee and Romney, with $3,240. Even Fred Thompson got more than her, with $6,350.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2008, 01:07 PM
 
24,433 posts, read 45,329,632 times
Reputation: 27037
The troops don't lie. Their donations tell the tale.

BOTH Obama and Paul were against the Iraq war, so we must add both of their donations to get a true picture of "wrong war" fans vs the "100 year war" fans; i.e., $106k vs $10.6k, or a staggering 10:1 ratio, which means that 90% of them OPPOSE McCain.

Military guys hate phony leaders. They know they were victimized by Bush - and will not have John McCain if they can help it.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2008, 01:12 PM
 
3,414 posts, read 6,896,177 times
Reputation: 1462
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike from back east View Post
The troops don't lie. Their donations tell the tale.

BOTH Obama and Paul were against the Iraq war, so we must add both of their donations to get a true picture of "wrong war" fans vs the "100 year war" fans; i.e., $106k vs $10.6k, or a staggering 10:1 ratio, which means that 90% of them OPPOSE McCain.

Military guys hate phony leaders. They know they were victimized by Bush - and will not have John McCain if they can help it.
I can't open the link. What are they basing this info on? How do they know who is giving how much to whom? Who is keeping score on such personal info?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2008, 01:23 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
3,325 posts, read 5,128,771 times
Reputation: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by normie View Post
Interesting, especially the chart.

Donations to Obama: $60,642
Donations to Ron Paul: $45,512
Donations to McCain: $10,665

Hillary Clinton is at the bottom of the list, after Huckabee and Romney, with $3,240. Even Fred Thompson got more than her, with $6,350.

According to the Rush Limbaugh crowd here who never served a day and have no concept of the military that list is wrong.

Those who have served and gotten out within 4 to 5 yrs KNOW that list is true . Surprised McCain even got that.

The military vote this election is going to go against the GOP like a steamroller .

In truth most who aren't officers dont vote and its going to be hard to count the over sea deployed combat troop votes unless the Dems get organized and make sure over sea troops get their ballots,etc they are going to lose huge volumes of votes.

In 2 months that list will take Obama and RP over $100,000 and Mccain will stay under $20,000.

Troops dont dislike Mccain they like him but the "new" GOP they hate. The funds given to candidates will back me up .

Oh wait maybe these are what Limbaugh calls not real soldiers,fake soldiers because they dont support creatures like him.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2008, 01:24 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
3,325 posts, read 5,128,771 times
Reputation: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike from back east View Post
The troops don't lie. Their donations tell the tale.

BOTH Obama and Paul were against the Iraq war, so we must add both of their donations to get a true picture of "wrong war" fans vs the "100 year war" fans; i.e., $106k vs $10.6k, or a staggering 10:1 ratio, which means that 90% of them OPPOSE McCain.

Military guys hate phony leaders. They know they were victimized by Bush - and will not have John McCain if they can help it.
--------------

This is what I have been saying last few weeks but ofcourse what do I know .
Oreilly and Limbaugh know best and you know that enlisted arent exactly known for donating money lol.

I would think Mccain's money came ftom officer's as a whole ?

Obama and RP from enlisted though now more officer's are Dems than ever or atleast RP supporters.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2008, 01:27 PM
 
24,433 posts, read 45,329,632 times
Reputation: 27037
Quote:
Originally Posted by laysayfair View Post
I can't open the link. What are they basing this info on? How do they know who is giving how much to whom? Who is keeping score on such personal info?
I had trouble with the link at first, but got it to work eventually. I had to first google on "open secrets" to get their basic page to load, then I got it to working. You'll find answers to your questions on that website. Seems like they are very thorough. Here's the link again: http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008...d-give-61.html
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
15,400 posts, read 27,738,940 times
Reputation: 19078
Quote:
Originally Posted by laysayfair View Post
I can't open the link. What are they basing this info on? How do they know who is giving how much to whom? Who is keeping score on such personal info?
It's the Capital Eye site, it's hard to open between 3-4 eastern standard time because that's when it usually updates.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2008, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
41,306 posts, read 43,221,983 times
Reputation: 7115
Quote:
Contributions from All Military Personnel Recipient Total Number
Obama, Barack $335,536 859
McCain, John $280,513 558
Paul, Ron $232,411 537
Clinton, Hillary $167,050 376
Republican National Cmte $135,902 219
Huckabee, Mike $66,751 127
Thompson, Fred $46,400 93
Romney, Mitt $43,307 96
Giuliani, Rudolph W $22,050 47
National Republican Senatorial Cmte $21,885 26
DNC Services Corp $16,873 53
Quote:
A former West Point professor, Jason Dempsey, noted that the small set of contributions from deployed troops at this point in 2008 -- just 323 donations -- should not be extrapolated to form conclusions about military personnel overall. "If, on a bad day, a guy gets that letter that says [his tour has been extended] from 12 to 15 months, that could spur a quick donation and expression of anger," he said. "Donating helps members of the military express their political views privately."
Quote:
Contributions from U.S. Troops Deployed Abroad Recipient Total Number
Obama, Barack $60,642 134
Paul, Ron $45,512 99
McCain, John $10,665 26
Huckabee, Mike $7,950 10
Thompson, Fred $6,350 7
Romney, Mitt $5,550 10
Clinton, Hillary $3,240 6
Wow! Just wow!
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-14-2008, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
15,400 posts, read 27,738,940 times
Reputation: 19078
Here's the Washington Post article on the same topic.

Obama Tops in Donations from Troops | The Trail | washingtonpost.com
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2022, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top