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Old 08-14-2008, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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"Thrice in the Illinois legislature, Obama helped block a bill that was designed solely to protect the life of infants already born, and outside the womb, who had miraculously survived the attempt to kill them during an abortion. Thrice, Obama voted to let doctors and nurses allow these tiny human beings die of neglect and be tossed out with the medical waste."

". . . When a bill almost identical to the one Barack fought in Illinois, the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, came to the floor of the U.S. Senate in 2001, the vote was 98 to 0 in favor. Barbara Boxer, the most pro-abortion member of the Senate before Barack came, spoke out on its behalf:

"Of course, we believe everyone should deserve the protection of this bill. ... Who could be more vulnerable than a newborn baby? So, of course, we agree with that. ... We join with an 'aye' vote on this. I hope it will, in fact, be unanimous."

Obama says he opposed the Born Alive Infants Protection Act because he feared it might imperil Roe v. Wade. But if Roe v. Wade did allow infanticide or murder, which is what letting a tiny baby die of neglect or killing it outright amounts to, why would he not want that court decision reviewed and amended to outlaw infanticide?"

A Catholic Case Against Barack - HUMAN EVENTS
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I have said over and over again, it's his views on abortion that will be his downfall, and if mccain is smart, he will be relentless during the debates. this is going to kill obama.
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yes, I agree. His opposition for the born alive legislation shows just how extreme he is. Even Naral had no problem with the bill.
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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How do you know that Obama himself is not a survivor of a "partial birth abortion"?
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:59 PM
 
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"Thrice in the Illinois legislature, Obama helped block a bill that was designed solely to protect the life of infants already born, and outside the womb, who had miraculously survived the attempt to kill them during an abortion. Thrice, Obama voted to let doctors and nurses allow these tiny human beings die of neglect and be tossed out with the medical waste."

". . . When a bill almost identical to the one Barack fought in Illinois, the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, came to the floor of the U.S. Senate in 2001, the vote was 98 to 0 in favor. Barbara Boxer, the most pro-abortion member of the Senate before Barack came, spoke out on its behalf:

"Of course, we believe everyone should deserve the protection of this bill. ... Who could be more vulnerable than a newborn baby? So, of course, we agree with that. ... We join with an 'aye' vote on this. I hope it will, in fact, be unanimous."

Obama says he opposed the Born Alive Infants Protection Act because he feared it might imperil Roe v. Wade. But if Roe v. Wade did allow infanticide or murder, which is what letting a tiny baby die of neglect or killing it outright amounts to, why would he not want that court decision reviewed and amended to outlaw infanticide?"

A Catholic Case Against Barack - HUMAN EVENTS
  • Obama didnt defeat the 2003 bill in his committee alone, the vote was 6-4. So it's misguided and misguiding to claim that OBAMA single-handedly voted to kill the babies.
  • The bill went back the next day to the Rules committee, who let it lie around for two more years until it died in 2005, made redundant by the 2005 federal law.
  • The 3/12/03 voting record shows that the committee split exactly on party lines, which virtually proves that it was nothing but political games-playing by that time. These questions also indicate they were playing a game.
  • If they all knew it was exactly the same language as HR 2175, why not just approve it?
  • Why didnt the Rs on the committee set up a hue and cry at this outrageous result?
And - the last paragraph you quote has nothing to do with the law.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore
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Aren't there enough "critters" on the planet? Really, what is this preoccupation by hordes of Repub bot strangers with what a woman does with her womb? Are you housing and clothing these unwanted kids once they are forced onto the planet through legislative restrictions?
Why not spay and neuter the least productive and reward the most productive since you want to eliminate?
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:04 PM
 
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Aren't there enough "critters" on the planet? Really, what is this preoccupation by hordes of Repub bot strangers with what a woman does with her womb? Are you housing and clothing these unwanted kids once they are forced onto the planet through legislative restrictions?
Apparently you didn't read. This bill was specifically designed to stop the murdering of babies who are being killed OUTSIDE THE WOMB!!!!!! Once outside the womb, NO WOMAN ON THIS PLANET DESERVES THE RIGHT TO DECIDE LIVE OR DIE, IT IS FLAT OUT MURDER.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Destined to be banned
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Have at it, in any case somethings gotta give. Have you watched the wars springing up over food and water in other countries? The natural resources on this planet are going to run out at some point, and then what is your righteous indignation over what women does with her own body 5 states over gonna do for you?
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:07 PM
 
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Apparently you didn't read. This bill was specifically designed to stop the murdering of babies who are being killed OUTSIDE THE WOMB!!!!!! Once outside the womb, NO WOMAN ON THIS PLANET DESERVES THE RIGHT TO DECIDE LIVE OR DIE, IT IS FLAT OUT MURDER.
Here's a thought, if abortion in the first trimester was easily available....
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:08 PM
 
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Why not spay and neuter the least productive and reward the most productive since you want to eliminate?
Facilitated by independent groups such as C.R.A.C.K., Children Requiring A Caring Kommunity (see CBSnews.com* (broken link)), female sterilization is being utilized in an attempt to limit the number of children by irresponsible, deadbeat women. C.R.A.C.K. goes into high poverty neighborhoods and offers women $200 to get permanent birth control or become sterilized. The women sought out for sterilization usually have several children they cannot support because they are addicts of drugs or alcohol (or both).
“The program has paid out $200 to 237 crack addicts who had total of 1500 pregnancies before they began the program. Of the 966 children born, 537 are in foster care.” (see CBSnews.com (broken link)*) [* CBS links go to a 404]

Democrat Taylor Marsh Broadcasts Live Talk Radio and Blogs Politics (http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=322 - broken link)

Excited? Visit Project Prevention - Children Requiring a Caring Community !!
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