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Old 08-17-2008, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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When Putin calls at 3:00 in the morning, Barack Hussein Obama will be on vacation.

Based on how Obama did in his little debate with McCain the other night, Barack should have stayed on vacation.
This is as silly as assuming Senator McCain will confuse Georgia and bomb a State. Seriously, aren't there some important issues before us?
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:51 AM
 
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When Putin calls at 3:00 in the morning, Barack Hussein Obama will be on vacation.

Based on how Obama did in his little debate with McCain the other night, Barack should have stayed on vacation.

Isnt it typical of a loony bin lib to be on vacation in time of need or importance?

First the failure and wrecking crew called the members of the liberal congress of shame go on vacation when people are going hungry and now Insame Obama goes to granny for advise on how to handle this forum.

Don't kid yourself, he went to talk to granny for some help and was not really on vacation. And he told granny to make sure she hides that real birth certificate.

Obama was a racist tramp when he did this to Thomas, he only did it because Thomas is black and asked people to be responsible for themselves and that black fathers need to help raise the children they were man enough to make.

President McCain didnt slip a bit, in fact he was so darn good he has just picked up a huge chunk of new voters and then added even more when Obama was caught lying and stuttering around the questions.

When asked his biggest flip flop the gutless coward didnt even say he was wrong and has flip flopped badly on the Iraq War or Oil. Gutless coward he is. He said it was on Welfare reform, what an easy out Barry.
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:17 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Isnt it typical of a loony bin lib to be on vacation in time of need or importance?
You really want to go there?

Were was Bush on 9/11?
Were was McCain on the run up to Iraq?
Were was McCain (and Bush) during Katrina?

Do you really want to compare the vacation records of a candidate who has more legislation then the incumbent and the repubisheep nominee combined? McCain takes every weekend of to be home and ignore his constituents. The sitting president holds the record in vacation days. Obama takes less then a week and you still really want to go there? The sad part is Obama probably did more on vacation then the sitting president has done in his 8 yrs.

Actually, I doubt you will bother to respond. Every thread were you made up facts and ignored reality that people have responded to you have not been answered. I have made at least 3 such attempts to engage you in honest debate and you have failed to respond. I have also seen you be completely racist and disgraceful in your threads.

If this is type of forum that city-data wants to run so be it, I will not be a part of it.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:07 AM
 
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When Putin calls at 3:00 in the morning, Barack Hussein Obama will be on vacation.
Because Bush hasn't used 1 vacation day in his 8 years right?
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Obama was a racist tramp when he did this to Thomas, he only did it because Thomas is black and asked people to be responsible for themselves and that black fathers need to help raise the children they were man enough to make.
Newsflash:

Obama asks absent fathers to take responsibility // Current
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:42 AM
 
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Some of these folks are the same people ranting when Jessie Jackson made the crush his privates comment as a result of Obama preaching this. Neurons don't always function beyond the moment at hand.
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:00 AM
 
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Obama slams Thomas; McCain slip may haunt - Carrie Budoff Brown - Politico.com
Asked his definition of "rich," McCain tossed off “$5 million,” then seemed to recognize this could join the list of comments he has tossed off in the past that have come back to him in attack ads.

”I'm sure that comment will be distorted," McCain said. "The point is we want to keep people's taxes low. ... I don't want to raise anybody's taxes."


Gotta love that quick direct right to the point style of McCain. No reflection but Straight Talk EXPRESS style. Quick and impulsive talk without pondering etc. America loves it and America needs it.

When Putin calls at 3:00 in the morning he will get it straight and in express style.
You miss the point of McCain's answer. McCain rejected the premise of the question which was that it is ok to use tax policy to sock it to the "rich" and that somehow that is defensible as long as we have a definition of "rich" that doesn't impact the so-called middle class. True to form Obama had a ready definition of "the rich": anyone who makes over $250,000.00 per year. That sounds like a lot of money. But if a business person works 80 hours a week to make this money (a point McCain made) that person is paying himself roughly $60.00 per hour. That's about what an auto mechanic makes. So Obama is prepared to punish the business person for having the audacity to work 80 hours a week. On the other hand McCain figures that we can increase the treasury's take by creating an economy that pays people good wages. The difference is stark: MCain is talking about making America the land of opportunity; Obama wants to punish people who embrace the opportunities afforded them by this country.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:58 PM
 
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You miss the point of McCain's answer. McCain rejected the premise of the question which was that it is ok to use tax policy to sock it to the "rich" and that somehow that is defensible as long as we have a definition of "rich" that doesn't impact the so-called middle class. True to form Obama had a ready definition of "the rich": anyone who makes over $250,000.00 per year. That sounds like a lot of money. But if a business person works 80 hours a week to make this money (a point McCain made) that person is paying himself roughly $60.00 per hour. That's about what an auto mechanic makes. So Obama is prepared to punish the business person for having the audacity to work 80 hours a week. On the other hand McCain figures that we can increase the treasury's take by creating an economy that pays people good wages. The difference is stark: MCain is talking about making America the land of opportunity; Obama wants to punish people who embrace the opportunities afforded them by this country.

If taxation is punishment then what is our budget based on other then a concept of cruel and unusual punishment. Secondly remember that 250K is after deductions so actual income is much higher. Thirdly if taxation is a punishment then what are government business credits? Lastly since we already have a progressive tax you are saying everyone above the lowest bracket is being punished by this administration.
Shame on President Bush 7 1/2 years of what you call punishment to all Americans other then those in the lowest bracket. Shameful isn't it?
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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If taxation is punishment then what is our budget based on other then a concept of cruel and unusual punishment. Secondly remember that 250K is after deductions so actual income is much higher. Thirdly if taxation is a punishment then what are government business credits? Lastly since we already have a progressive tax you are saying everyone above the lowest bracket is being punished by this administration.
Shame on President Bush 7 1/2 years of what you call punishment to all Americans other then those in the lowest bracket. Shameful isn't it?
Where has Obama pointed out that the $250K was after deductions? My reading of his tax policy documents seemed to indicate that it was based on Adjusted Gross Income. This would be before any writeoffs.

If it is only on income after all deductions, what is Obama proposing to assure folks don't abuse tax shelters?
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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If taxation is punishment then what is our budget based on other then a concept of cruel and unusual punishment. Secondly remember that 250K is after deductions so actual income is much higher. Thirdly if taxation is a punishment then what are government business credits? Lastly since we already have a progressive tax you are saying everyone above the lowest bracket is being punished by this administration.
Shame on President Bush 7 1/2 years of what you call punishment to all Americans other then those in the lowest bracket. Shameful isn't it?

I've been looking through Obama's tax plan and I don't see where he mentions the $250K as only being income after all exemptions and deductions. Where am I missing this point?

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Economy
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