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Old 08-26-2008, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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Do you know that McCain, many times voted for Viagra,
but voted against birth control?
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Do you know that McCain, many times voted for Viagra,
but voted against birth control?
Anyone of those aborted fetuses could have been the second coming of the baby Jesus. You know that, right?
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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This is a stupid thread.
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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This is a stupid thread.
Fitting since we are in a stupid election thats focused on so many stupid issues:

-secret muslims
-#of houses
-gas is expensive
-your wife is rich/mean
-your candidate is just the next bush/carter
-your candidate is a rock star
-your candidate didnt pledge the flag properly
-your candidate only served/was a POW and isnt qualified
-put air in your tires

What about:

-We have the worst budget problems in history
-Our federal reserve and banking system is destroying the economy
-Our SS and Medicare systems face multi-TRILLION $ obligations that we have no way of funding
-Our current "leaders" accomplish nothing other than fighting and dont make any progress on anything important
-Our legislation, regulations, red tape and lawsuits have destroyed a once effective health care system
-Our country is still stuck in an unconstitutional war
-We have given up way too many rights in the name of "patriotism" and keeping safe from the big scary terrorists
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:54 PM
 
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Anyone of those aborted fetuses could have been the second coming of the baby Jesus. You know that, right?
We are speaking of birth control and not aborted fetuses, but any one of the many aborted fetuses are unwanted and would, chances are, be in dysfunctional homes. They would have been sensitive in the womb to being the burden they were to her. They would have been born, as a result, with some degree of dysfunctional, and on top, into a home that had no place for them.

So they would more likely be a Charlie Manson or Bundy or maybe the anti-Christ. You know that, right?
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:58 PM
 
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Fitting since we are in a stupid election thats focused on so many stupid issues:

-secret muslims
-#of houses
-gas is expensive
-your wife is rich/mean
-your candidate is just the next bush/carter
-your candidate is a rock star
-your candidate didnt pledge the flag properly
-your candidate only served/was a POW and isnt qualified
-put air in your tires

What about:

-We have the worst budget problems in history
-Our federal reserve and banking system is destroying the economy
-Our SS and Medicare systems face multi-TRILLION $ obligations that we have no way of funding
-Our current "leaders" accomplish nothing other than fighting and dont make any progress on anything important
-Our legislation, regulations, red tape and lawsuits have destroyed a once effective health care system
-Our country is still stuck in an unconstitutional war
-We have given up way too many rights in the name of "patriotism" and keeping safe from the big scary terrorists
The 'suits' and illegals who are not covered by insurance have ruined the healthcare system.
One of the candidates voted against the illegal war, one would keep troops there for a hundred years.
The Patriot Act is a Bush creation.

I agree, there is a lot to complain about, but I don't think both parties are the same on these issues. Please get your facts right.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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The 'suits' and illegals who are not covered by insurance have ruined the healthcare system.
One of the candidates voted against the illegal war, one would keep troops there for a hundred years.
The Patriot Act is a Bush creation.

I agree, there is a lot to complain about, but I don't think both parties are the same on these issues. Please get your facts right.
First, Obama wasn't in the US Senate at the time of the vote for Iraq. He made a speech in 2002. Remember?

The Patriot Act author disagrees with the way it has been used to "defend" us from terrorism.

How do you know where Obama stands on these issues? How do you know where McCain stands? They don't discuss the real problems of the fiat currency system and centralized banking that's causes inflation and the high energy prices. They don't discuss the long term costs coming due of an insolvent program like SS and Medicare. They don't discuss the budget deficits except in blaming the other party for the failures when they pass the budgets in a bi-partisan vote. Both support continued intervention is other countries as evidenced at the debates.

So they have lots of things in common. The only thing that really separates them is who they pander to.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:45 PM
 
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The 'suits' and illegals who are not covered by insurance have ruined the healthcare system.
One of the candidates voted against the illegal war, one would keep troops there for a hundred years.
The Patriot Act is a Bush creation.

I agree, there is a lot to complain about, but I don't think both parties are the same on these issues. Please get your facts right.
Where did I assign these particular issues to any specific party? I said these were issues, period. All of these issues belong to BOTH parties in the Senate, Congress, and POTUS, Democrats and Republicans alike own them regardless...all 3 parties need to fix them and stop with the partisan BS and bickering over stuff that doesnt matter.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:55 PM
 
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First, Obama wasn't in the US Senate at the time of the vote for Iraq. He made a speech in 2002. Remember?

The Patriot Act author disagrees with the way it has been used to "defend" us from terrorism.

How do you know where Obama stands on these issues? How do you know where McCain stands? They don't discuss the real problems of the fiat currency system and centralized banking that's causes inflation and the high energy prices. They don't discuss the long term costs coming due of an insolvent program like SS and Medicare. They don't discuss the budget deficits except in blaming the other party for the failures when they pass the budgets in a bi-partisan vote. Both support continued intervention is other countries as evidenced at the debates.

So they have lots of things in common. The only thing that really separates them is who they pander to.
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

If you care to, go to this site and put your cursor over the 'issues' bar. If you don't see what you want, write in, they ask you to.
Nobody touches the banking system, but Kennedy wanted to get rid of it, remember?
You are right about Obama and the war, but he was against it.
Clinton left a marvelous economy to Bush.
Barak does discuss our fiscal problems.
Frankly, I think Obama has taken a much firmer stand on issues than McCain. All McC seems to want to do is tell stories, mostly referring back to his POW status. What he does say he will do I don't agree with.
Democrats seemed to have done more right things in the past than Reps.
Cutting waste out of welfare, training people for jobs, balancing the budget. Reps, particularly the modern Republican Party, seems to have turned away from their original values. I see them as not understanding what the middle class is living through in today's economy.
Bush has brought us out of a time of relative prosperity into misery and McCain agrees with 95% of his policies.
I see a difference.
Obama speaks to the middle class. His roots are in the middle class.
McC speaks to his peers. He married into wealth and it is issues that affect those people that get his utmost concern. Instead of thoughtful answers he gives us platitudes and stolen stories of sand drawings. He tries to tug at our emotions to get responses rather than appeal to our logic.
There is no reservation about who I will vote for. I see a big difference.
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Do you know that McCain, many times voted for Viagra,
but voted against birth control?

lol of course. He is a true Republican, concerned only about his own....10 seconds of satisfaction (if he can even do that, lol).
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