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Old 08-27-2008, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You do realize that the war costs are not in the federal budget. If they were, Obama wouldn't have to vote to continue to fund the war. Sheesh.
Of course I realize the supplemental bills fund the war(s).

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I have a bigger problem with the guy who claims he has never done it when he has.
And what of obama's claim to be a new kind of politician? What of the washington is broken mantra? Don't earmarks fit in with that?

Don't answer that - I already know. They are irrelevant to a bot.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Of course I realize the supplemental bills fund the war(s).



And what of obama's claim to be a new kind of politician? What of the washington is broken mantra? Don't earmarks fit in with that?

Don't answer that - I already know. They are irrelevant to a bot.
It isn't a lost issue at all, it just isn't going to be used until we get closer to the actual election.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:27 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Of course I realize the supplemental bills fund the war(s).



And what of obama's claim to be a new kind of politician? What of the washington is broken mantra? Don't earmarks fit in with that?

Don't answer that - I already know. They are irrelevant to a bot.
The earmark problem is building bridges to NOWHERE. It's funding "junior's" "pet projects" that smell of corruption.

Aids research, Red Cross Emergency Readiness Programs, Libraries, NEEDED infrastructure projects... all together now... ARE GOOOD THINGS.

smile, be happy.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Default "Outrageous" Exaggerations

"Outrageous" Exaggerations
November 20, 2007
McCain's ad revisits some oft-mentioned examples of pork, but is he really the one who rooted them out?
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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It isn't a lost issue at all, it just isn't going to be used until we get closer to the actual election.
You betcha. Just another issue to bludgeon obama with.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Default Would Senator McCain cut funding to Israel?

"The problem is that the CRS — the group Holtz-Eakin cited as the basis for McCain’s earmark elimination plan — says that U.S. aid to Israel is considered an earmark:
Several special characteristics of the practice of earmarking in Foreign Operations bills are worth noting. Some observers define earmarks in a more limited way, identifying only provisions that direct spending for items not requested by the Administration or in excess of levels proposed for activities or countries. Although many Foreign Operations earmarks fall within this more narrow definition, congressional directives specifying spending amounts that are the same as shown in the Administration’s illustrative listing for country distributions also are regarded as earmarks. Annual earmarks for economic and military aid to Israel and Egypt are examples of such directives.
So is McCain’s plan to cut earmarks a pledge to eliminate all aid to Israel?"
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Nice spin dodge, but McCain has long opposed earmarks. He doesn't submit any at all (can't say the same for Obama, though).
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Dispute the Facts. There is no spin. The definition is there as well as the criteria.
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:32 AM
 
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Since when does any liberal not love earmarks, especially the one who has the worst record in congress for voting for them and who has the most liberal voting record out of every single member of congress.

Sanrene, McCain is holding some things back for later. This might be one of them, he will hit it alittle then hammer Obama on all this later on close to Nov.

Cannot wait to see the first debate? Obama has been afraid to debate him and we all know why.

This will be brought up at the first debate, wait and see.
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Old 08-27-2008, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Since when does any liberal not love earmarks, especially the one who has the worst record in congress for voting for them and who has the most liberal voting record out of every single member of congress.

Sanrene, McCain is holding some things back for later. This might be one of them, he will hit it alittle then hammer Obama on all this later on close to Nov.

Cannot wait to see the first debate? Obama has been afraid to debate him and we all know why.

This will be brought up at the first debate, wait and see.
How many Billions does Senator McCain plan to eliminate that are currently earmarked to foreign Governments?
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