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Old 09-04-2008, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Her speech was better. Who cares about Obama's I have a scheme speech now.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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I could be wrong, but ABC NBC and CBS did not even show Obamas speech. If that's the case, this thread is big time misleading.
Again, just like someone said a few posts earlier, what issues and problems, like the economy and health care did she talk about? I noticed she did the old tired Drill Here Drill Now stump, again, does any one really think that extra American drilling would mean all the extra oil will STAY in the USA only? Wake up.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:01 PM
 
Location: 44.9800° N, 93.2636° W
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makes sense to me...no one knows who she is really, and previous to her speech last night all that was being discussed was her family, etc. Of course her speech would get high ratings so people can learn about her.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Nobody knows who he is, that's why, let's see her get 80,000 in a football stadium.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:11 PM
 
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does any one really think that extra American drilling would mean all the extra oil will STAY in the USA only? Wake up.
Oil is traded on the global market. People don't understand that if there's more drilling, it's highly possible that American oil would end up going to China and India. Nobody considers this.

And of course it would take years before any effects are felt, long after this election cycle is in the books. People act like it's going to lower oil prices tomorrow.

There is no such thing as "energy independence" as long as we're burning fossil fuels, any more than there's such a thing as a Santa Claus. That's lost on the average American voter, but it's surely a good manipulation point. People were hoodwinked into thinking that invading Iraq would mean cheap oil for all of us. D'oh!

The whole "foreign oil" dependence thing is talked about too much. What about how nothing is manufactured here anymore? We're dependent on China for goods, India for customer/tech support, Mexico for cheap labor. Economic sovereignty is a pipe dream that exists only in the minds of election strategists and the slack-jawed imbeciles they succeed in manipulating.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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Nobody knows who he is, that's why, let's see her get 80,000 in a football stadium.
You'll be surprised how many people show up when you give out free concerts and food.
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