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Old 02-16-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Law Review does not go to the best or brightest student. It is a popularity contest. Ask anyone who went to a high end law school. It is more "man of the year" than "valedictorian"....
Where I went to law school, which qualifies under any definition as "high end" and did when I went there, the first years who made Law Review were chosen in a blinded process -- a certain percentage based on grades and a non-sucky writing sample, the rest based on a writing sample. Beyond that, I doubt that most of the first years knew who the bigwigs on law review were.

And as best as I can tell, most of the second years who were given editor slots as third years were very smart, some ridiculously so.
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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Where I went to law school, which qualifies under any definition as "high end" and did when I went there, the first years who made Law Review were chosen in a blinded process -- a certain percentage based on grades and a non-sucky writing sample, the rest based on a writing sample. Beyond that, I doubt that most of the first years knew who the bigwigs on law review were.

And as best as I can tell, most of the second years who were given editor slots as third years were very smart, some ridiculously so.
Just curious. Did the pres of your law review ever contribute? Seems there is nothing that Obama wrote during his time. Don't you find that odd?
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:15 PM
 
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Just curious. Did the pres of your law review ever contribute? Seems there is nothing that Obama wrote during his time. Don't you find that odd?
Perhaps I am mistaken but I have always been under the impression that Law Review editors solicit and edit manuscripts submitted for publication, it isn't their role to write for the review.
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:05 PM
 
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Perhaps I am mistaken but I have always been under the impression that Law Review editors solicit and edit manuscripts submitted for publication, it isn't their role to write for the review.
Well, you may be right. I didn't go to law school and don't know...although I think Susan Estrich (who was a fromer HLR editor) said she found that very odd if he didn't even author a note.

Anyway...what about his 2nd year? Nothing published.

I understand why people are concerned.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Earth
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If you don't know anything about a subject, why not either research it or shut up about it.
You just look stupid and vindictive otherwise.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Because they aren't public records? I can't just call up your alma mater (assuming you went to college) and get your transcript. This is no different.
Oxy & Columbia are private too ...

I still want to see Wonderboy's undoctored Champagne Brigade records.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Oh brother people ... getting on the HLR is easily googled ...

Harvard Law Review - Membership Selection

When I worked for 2 law schools, the law reviews published articles from other authors at other law schools. Student notes or articles aren't the crux of the publication. Being published in a reputable law review, Harvard being the big one, gets people tenured on their law faculties. Obama, as president, participated in the SELECTION of articles to be published in the law review, so it's not unusual for a law review president or editor not to be published in the law review. He may have had to write onto the review, but that article wasn't necessarily published.

But here's one that politico claims is a "lost article", which is just silliness ... it was published. Politico obviously hasn't a clue about how a law school publication works.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12705.html
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:06 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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What would LSAT and Columbia law grades reveal? What a reach for the sour grapes crowd.

The LSAT is not a reliable indicator of law school success, success as a lawyer, or suitability to be President. Also, law school grades can be deceptively low.

I think you conservatives better spend more time trying to figure out why you choose to be on the wrong side of the political argument, and why your party has been an utter failure since 2000. Your leader, the former president village idiot, is the reason why the economy of this country is in a free fall now. You republicans have no answers, don't know the questions, and certainly have not been able to come up with solutions.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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What would LSAT and Columbia law grades reveal? What a reach for the sour grapes crowd.

The LSAT is not a reliable indicator of law school success, success as a lawyer, or suitability to be President. Also, law school grades can be deceptively low.

I think you conservatives better spend more time trying to figure out why you choose to be on the wrong side of the political argument, and why your party has been an utter failure since 2000. Your leader, the former president village idiot, is the reason why the economy of this country is in a free fall now. You republicans have no answers, don't know the questions, and certainly have not been able to come up with solutions.
lsat scores have a stronger correlation with law school success than college gpa does. that's why most law schools from TTT to elite ones weigh lsat more than the UG gpa for admission purposes. success as a lawyer is much different as law school doesn't prepare you to be a lawyer, just train you to reason/think like one. BO though making president of law review is as much a political as it is academic, but making the cut to be on law review is a testament to his writing and intellectual ability. also he graduated magna *** laude, which has been confirmed by harvard law.

regardless, when it comes to academic prowess i think bill clinton does a number on bo. phi beta kappa at georgetown sfs, rhodes scholar, YLS. that is even more impressive, IMO.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:23 PM
 
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If you don't know anything about a subject, why not either research it or shut up about it.
You just look stupid and vindictive otherwise.
Okay, I'll play.

I looked a bit and found the Susan Estrich tidbit about her opinion of Barry's lack of authorship on the HLR.

I saw this thread and asked if someone else knew more about this.

See, I get to do that kind of thing. Even though it really, really makes lefties like you very, very, very, very angry.

Lefties really have a problem with anyone questioning Barry. Wonder why?
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