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Old 09-05-2008, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Will you cut it with the liberial media BS? As a US soldier, not one of us are more important than the other and if you new anything about what you were talking about you would know that no matter the job at any moment you could lose your life. You are more than welcome to stop wasting your time criticising on a blog and enlist to do so much more than what you think Joe Biden's son is doing.
Very well said.
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:26 PM
 
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...one of the biggest mistakes made by this country in 220 years...
Have you ever read a history book? Iraq is one of the biggest mistakes in American history? You are either a drama queen or an uneducated fool.

For example: the choice not to overthrow Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf War was a bigger mistake. We'd have saved the lives of tens of thousands more Iraqi's lives had we finished the job then.

Another example: the way the U.S. pulled out of Vietnam was awful.

Consider the lack of labor laws during the Industrial Revolution...

Consider U.S. government treatment of Native Americans...

One thing is for sure, Iraqi's certainly don't think overthrowing Saddam Hussein was one of the worst mistakes in U.S. history! Regardless of the false pretenses that led to war, that outcome is a positive thing. The world is far better off without Saddam Hussein.

Yes, every life lost in any war is tragic. However, the U.S. has lost relatively few men in Iraq compared to numerous other conflicts. There is no way that Iraq is "one of the biggest mistakes made by this country in 220 years."
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Palin's son deserves credit for serving. Hope he does well and is safe.

Still, I wonder if he went into the Army to get AWAY from his family situation, or OUT of podunk. No one knows but him.

I hope he serves well and gets some GI bill money for college. BTW, Obama voted for the new GI bill and McCain voted NO on it.

When this nations teenagers join the military, the life lessons they learn are imparted upon them in many ways by their employer, the U.S. government.

When that government is a criminal one, they can learn that lying is alright, the invading other nations with no justification is alright, that the "enemy" is someone who does not look the same, talk the same, or worship the same God as they do. They also can put them, repeatedly, into harms way.

That is the lesson of Bush/Cheney, and that will be the lesson of McCain/Palin
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:31 PM
 
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Have you ever read a history book? Iraq is one of the biggest mistakes in American history? You are either a drama queen or an uneducated fool.

For example: the choice not to overthrow Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf War was a bigger mistake. We'd have saved the lives of tens of thousands more Iraqi's lives had we finished the job then.

Another example: the way the U.S. pulled out of Vietnam was awful.

Consider the lack of labor laws during the Industrial Revolution...

Consider U.S. government treatment of Native Americans...

One thing is for sure, Iraqi's certainly don't think overthrowing Saddam Hussein was one of the worst mistakes in U.S. history! Regardless of the false pretenses that led to war, that outcome is a positive thing. The world is far better off without Saddam Hussein.

Yes, every life lost in any war is tragic. However, the U.S. has lost relatively few men in Iraq compared to numerous other conflicts. There is no way that Iraq is "one of the biggest mistakes made by this country in 220 years."

What does this have to do with Bidens son getting a cake job and the media pretending he is going to be a foot soldier?

And by the way, it will turn out not to be a mistake in time. We have defeated and have scared our enemies to pieces with our victory.

You need to stop reading those liberal books, because in time Bush will be the hero for stopping terrorism from spreading all over the world.

Did you book state that Obama said "the surge has been a success" and explain how wrong he was on the surge?
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Do some homework before you rant on this blog. He is the Atorney General in Delaware. You are the one who brought it up and I haven't heard the news talk about either one of the men going to Iraq. I've only heard of them going to Iraq because their parents mentioned it the night they gave their acceptance speaches!
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Have you ever read a history book? Iraq is one of the biggest mistakes in American history? You are either a drama queen or an uneducated fool.

For example: the choice not to overthrow Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf War was a bigger mistake. We'd have saved the lives of tens of thousands more Iraqi's lives had we finished the job then.

Another example: the way the U.S. pulled out of Vietnam was awful.

Consider the lack of labor laws during the Industrial Revolution...

Consider U.S. government treatment of Native Americans...

One thing is for sure, Iraqi's certainly don't think overthrowing Saddam Hussein was one of the worst mistakes in U.S. history! Regardless of the false pretenses that led to war, that outcome is a positive thing. The world is far better off without Saddam Hussein.

Yes, every life lost in any war is tragic. However, the U.S. has lost relatively few men in Iraq compared to numerous other conflicts. There is no way that Iraq is "one of the biggest mistakes made by this country in 220 years."
Anytime you wish to debate history, you can send me an invite to this forums history sub-forum, which is excellent, by the way. Until then dont you EVER try and lecture me about history, especially if your grasp of said subject is tenuous.

I repeat: ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISTAKES IN 220 YEARS.

The fallout from invading Iraq will be felt for many decades, and could very easily trigger a much larger war, and sometime soon, as well.
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:33 PM
 
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Heck, I feel in harms way with all these hateful Liberals around.

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Old 09-05-2008, 09:34 PM
 
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For example: the choice not to overthrow Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf War was a bigger mistake. We'd have saved the lives of tens of thousands more Iraqi's lives had we finished the job then.
No, that was an INFORMED decision by the VERY SMART National Security Council of President G.H.W. Bush, who knew that going into Bagdad would involve a long, bloody occupation of a Muslim nation. Study a history book sometime.

Instead we got CONNED into taking out the enemy of Iran by (probable) Iranian agents in the form of Chalabi and his agents, "curveball" etc. This bunch of scam artists told Cheney and his cabal (please dear God, when are the indictments coming?) exactly what they wanted to hear.

So, after Iran lost a couple of million men, plus untold billions trying to take over Iraq, they conned us into doing in 2 years what they couldn't do in 20. We were the world's biggest suckers on this deal.

Considering the other tragedies you cited, treatment of aboriginal Americans, lack of labor laws during the industrial revolution. None of those rise to the WILLFUL ignorance of ONE administration.

golfgod
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Came-by-Chance
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You cannot tell me the media is not bias when they cover Bidens son going and leave Palins son out of the conversation.
wth are you talking about, Track Palin is getting lots of coverage.

track palin + iraq - Google Search
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Anytime you wish to debate history, you can send me an invite to this forums history sub-forum, which is excellent, by the way. Until then dont you EVER try and lecture me about history, especially if your grasp of said subject is tenuous.

I repeat: ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISTAKES IN 220 YEARS.

The fallout from invading Iraq will be felt for many decades, and could very easily trigger a much larger war, and sometime soon, as well.
No doubt and anyone who doesn't think it was a mistake still believe that they found WMD's in Iraq!
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