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Old 09-06-2008, 05:21 AM
 
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he was a lucky one, most that loose a plane do not return.

I have heard several stories of WWII where pilots had to bail due to damaged parts of aircraft, they were unsafe to land, or they were destroyed during landing because of damage.
Yeah, but five to one guy?

Has that ever happened in the past?

I would not think anyone would allow that guy up in a plane again.

Those things are expensive not to mention that the lives of the rest of the people on board must have some value to out armed forces.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:22 AM
 
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I don't know anything about the other four, but have you even bothered to look into what happened on the Forrestal? A plane that was missing a safetying pin that keeps missiles from firing accidentally shot one off that hit a jet near the one McCain was waiting to take off in.

Trying to blame that on him is like someone blaming you for someone keying your car in the middle of the night.
So, you think it was some kind of Voodoo curse, then?
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:25 AM
 
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And Joe Biden was a draft dodger.

Do you dems have a hero or are you all drat dodgers like Biden and Clinton?
Yes, yes, you found us out. We are, indeed, drat dodgers. Is that some sort of baseball fan?
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:29 AM
 
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So the attacks on Palin hurt you liberals and now your back to attacking McCain. Sorry to tell you this but this country is in line behind McCain and Palin and it will take a bunch more lies to stop it.

The liberals list is growing shorter by the minute. They are running out of things.
Wait until Palin's affair breaks. It may be a matter of record, so it will be hard to grease palms to shut that one down.

An affair, I guess, will be a deal breaker, huh?
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:31 AM
 
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Unlike the goofy website posted as a "source" in the OP let's see what a credible site, (especially with the liberals) msnbc, has to say about McCain:

Navy releases McCain's military record - John McCain News - MSNBC.com

contrast that with information about Biden (sorry, no relevant info available concerning Obama, he's got nuttin):

The Associated Press: Deferments, asthma kept Biden out of Vietnam



What a difference.
My husband had asthma. It left. It came back, many years later.
It left again.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:33 AM
 
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The A-1s were a propeller driven aircraft that had no radar and a poor safety record, crashing for inexplicable reasons. If you saw "We were soldier once..." that was an A-1 that crashed and to this day no one has a clue why it crashed.

The A-4 he was flying when shot down was not much better than the A-1. It had a jet engine and very primitive avionics. A total of 352 A-4s were lost in Vietnam so it isn't like McCain was a bad pilot.
How many times has a guy lost FIVE????

As I said, it's like the kid who skipped school many times, with that credible excuse each time, but somehow you stop believing him.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:26 AM
 
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Y

I would not think .

Those things are expensive not to mention that the lives of the rest of the people on board must have some value to out armed forces.

First sentence, true about No-Load.

Second, try again in English. (BTW, a Scooter was considered cheap at that time)
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:48 AM
 
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How many times has a guy lost FIVE????

As I said, it's like the kid who skipped school many times, with that credible excuse each time, but somehow you stop believing him.

Gee, I wonder what YOUR knowledgeable opinion of Chuck Yeager might be? You do realize he pranged several aircraft, don't you?
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:54 AM
 
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So, you think it was some kind of Voodoo curse, then?
I doubt he does but he may think ANYBODY who would think this was his fault is an idiot. Me, being one who has more then his share of flight deck experience KNOWS it.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:00 AM
 
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How many times has a guy lost FIVE????

As I said, it's like the kid who skipped school many times, with that credible excuse each time, but somehow you stop believing him.

Using your calculus, Chuck Yeager and "Pappy" Boyington come instantly to mind.
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