CNN interview tonight Pastor Tim McGraw,Palin's Pentecostal Pastor from Assembly of God, Wasilla... (thoughts, speech)
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This is no big deal. It's just another religion among many. No reason for fear. I know many people of that religion. The beliefs are a little strange, but not threatening. In fact, My ex-Mother in law was a preacher in the Assembly of God church, so I know a bit about their practices. I went there quite alot, and it was interesting, but never did anyone try to force me to join, and of course I didn't. I never saw anyone handle snakes. Most of the people were just ordinary people, nice, friendly, and helpful. Of course there are many different Charismatic churches, and aybe not all are alike. I wouldn't worry about them. They are not political. They do "speak in tongues", can dance pretty good, and the music can get loud--almost like being at a rock concert.
Oh, does that mean you 'd vote for Palin if she was a Muslim? haha didn't think so..
Yes, but the Wiccans I knew were loving and wished well for the world and did not condemn others.
They were also environmentalists and cared for animals. They meditated. When they did their equivalent of prayer when asking for something, they had some phrase, I forget what, which had the same meaning as 'Thy will be done'.
Now, there are all sorts of people calling themselves Wiccan, as there are Christians, but the mainstream are good people.
Most Christians do not condemn others to hell or only promote other Christians in their daily life. They believe in fairness and that God leads people in His own way. They may pray for others, but they are humble enough to realize that they - no human - can not know ALL of God, and sort of follow the 'let go and let God' philosophy.
By doing so they are more likely to have healthy attitudes and hope.
These fundamentalist religions often do not fit that mold. They may use the trappings of Christianity, but the mindset can be very different.
Obama is of the same faith
United Church of Christ
Nice try but no cigar! Palin's views are entirely in line with this fanatical thinking where her beliefs should be subjected on everyone else, like her belief that abortion should be outlawed even for rape and incest victims. Obama does not subscribe to such extremist views so it is hardly the same.
Obama is of the same faith,
pentecostal
better be careful
A while ago, because of Rev. Wright and his big mouth (my words)
Barack Obama has resigned his membership in Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ, following months of controversy about pastors and their political views.
Mr. Obama said he and his wife, Michelle, wrote a letter on Friday to the church’s pastor, the Rev. Otis Moss, explaining that their estrangement from Trinity took root in controversial remarks by the church’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.
“Our relations with Trinity have been strained by the divisive statements of Reverend Wright, which sharply conflict with our own views,” they wrote. “These controversies have served as an unfortunate distraction for other Trinity members who seek to worship in peace, and have placed you in an untenable position.
“I make this decision with sadness,” said Mr. Obama, speaking in subdued tones as he stood before a bland background. “This is where I found Jesus Christ, where we were married, where our children were baptized. We are proud of the extraordinary works of that church.”
Mr. Obama rejected suggestions that he denounce the church, which is one of Chicago’s largest and most socially active black churches, with a wide array of respected social programs.
Mr. Obama said he and his wife would search for a new church but probably would not make a decision until after the election in November.
He acknowledged that the search would be a tricky business, not least because African-American pastors often pride themselves on speaking with a clear “prophetic voice” about social and racial injustices. Their aim is not to force parishioners to agree with every word, they say, but to spark thought.
It could probably be argued that Christian practices are no more weird than wiccan, in terms of strict weirdness. I'm not in any particular doctrine, it's all weird to me - I'm pretty new agey which is definitely weird and some (Palin) would say I'm in need of some serious saving.
I wouldn't want a wiccan as VP who let it affect the job.
Didn't both Reagans consult the astrologer? Not good
I am not sure how seriously the Reagans took the astrologer.
I consulted a stock broker and fortunately, did not follow his advice.
I disregarded, to my benefit, some advice of doctors, too.
It is the 'true believer' who often is the problem, the person who has lost touch with reality, the guy with one card missing from the deck.
I am no longer a Republican, but I don't think the astrology thing hurt Reagan.
I have heard that Hitler was following his astrologer's advice too much. Lucky us.
I also heard that groups of Wiccans, all over England, were trying to thwart him.
In some instances, we can use all the prayers we can get, eh?
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Oh, are YOU ever wrong.
These people are SAVED.
Others will go to HELL - if the saved do not preach the word to them and save them before it's too late.
They, thinking they are doing good, will do everything in their power to obey what they say is God's laws.
If THEIR God does not abortion, it is illegal.
If THEY think the world is 5000 years old, they want YOUR children to learn that in schools.
Don't you think they will try to appoint people to the Supreme Court who best follow what THEY consider THEIR God wants?
Fundamentalists in power are always dangerous.
There are fundie groups who believe we are living in END TIMES. Some of those groups don't give a darn about pollution and global warming because it just brings the END TIMES closer.
They don't care if the Israeli situtation in the mideast explodes into a nuclear war for the same reason.
And, like other cultish religions, they don't tell you all this junk when you meet them. All you hear is the good stuff. When you're sucked in, they spoon feed you the junk, but by that time you're committed.
No, No, No. I find it strange that you don't know these things, being so close to them.
It sounds like you have had a bad experience with the people you knew. I'm sorry. I only spoke about the church I knew about. My ex-husband was a member, his Mother preached there--so I guess women were allowed to preach, and teach. I was not subjugated as a woman by any of them, or felt that I had a certain role to fulfill as a woman. Actually, I was a member of another church at the time, and usually went there. I thought the Penecostals had different rituals than I was used to, but was never afraid of them. They had no control over me. I did, and do as I please. I can think for myself, as I think we all can. I think it's kind of funny that anyone would be afraid of Penecostals. They are devoted to their religion, and would like to make a convert, maybe, but are not in the least scarey. Many of them were my friends, and not once was I frightened. I could never be of that religion, but neither could I be many other religions. I like the people though.
Oh oh, passing out from lack of blood here...........
See?
TOLD you!
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No, I wouldn't
