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Old 09-14-2008, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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"The former Bush chief strategist, appearing on Fox News Sunday, said that John McCain had stretched the truth in his recent round of attacks against Barack Obama, in the process opening up the Arizonan to a round of effective counter-attacks."

"McCain has gone in his ads one step too far, and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the 100-percent-truth test," said Rove. "Both campaigns ought to be careful about... there ought to be an adult who says: 'Do we really need to go that far in this ad? Don't we make our point and get broader acceptance and deny the opposition an opportunity to attack us if we don't include that one little last tweak in the ad?'"

"McCain has received a heaping dose of criticism late this week for launching a series of advertisements that could be categorized as dishonest if not downright lies. The Obama camp, in a memo to reporters Sunday morning -- entitled a "Dishonorable, Dishonest Campaign" -- highlighted a number of these pieces. Joe Klein, of Time magazine called one spot the "sleaziest" he had ever seen. Paul Krugman of the New York Times, defined the episode as a "blizzard of lies." On Sunday, the St. Petersburg Times, ran an editorial entitled: "Campaign Of Lies Disgraces McCain," while the Chicago Tribune's Steve Chapman, wrote that "to McCain the truth is expandable."

"That Rove would acknowledge truth in these complaints is somewhat remarkable. The man known as Bush's brain made a reputation of slinging mud at the opposition and waiting for it to stick."

"But it should be noted, Rove's complaints with McCain's strategy was not that it had elicited the condemnation of groups like politifact or factcheck.org -- "You can't trust the fact check organization in all respect," he said. "They are human beings and individuals; they have got their own biases in there." Rather, he argued that by exaggerating so wildly, the Republican presidential nominee had opened himself up to political attacks."
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Jeez, when Rove starts having a problem with what McCain is doing, that certainly says something about McCain and his honor.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:15 PM
 
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I would bet that Rove's only criteria for any political ploy is whether it has the desired effect. He must know better than most that when you overplay your hand it can backfire.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:16 PM
 
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hahahahha... That's funny.

Now if only Rove would get his dirty little hands out of his campaign, we can have a semi-honest election. But as long as Rove and his cohort continue to work as "advisors", well, you tell me.... yeah we just might lose.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I thought Rove made those lie ads!
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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How foul can you get for Rove to call you a liar? Geesh.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I watched that show this morning. He also cited the obama campaign going too cute by half with the "still" ad. That's what he was saying - both campaigns have to give those ads that little extra tweek that might put it over the top - both campaigns.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:48 PM
 
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I watched that show this morning. He also cited the obama campaign going too cute by half with the "still" ad. That's what he was saying - both campaigns have to give those ads that little extra tweek that might put it over the top - both campaigns.


A guy who refused subpoenas to testify in front of Congress is still going to muddy the waters up while he's calling McCain out on his lies. The whole thing is hilarious really. What a mess.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Kind of puts the credibility of the entire party out there doesn't it. Consider who's calling the other guy names and what they've done to them.

Change 'em all out.
Obama/Biden 08
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:57 PM
 
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Watch this video. Karl Rove is dissing the Governor of the State of Virgina saying he isn't qualified to be VP-- but he has way more experience than Palin


YouTube - Karl Rove on worth of gubatorial and mayoral experience
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