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Old 09-16-2008, 04:03 PM
 
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If people say he is a muslim it might be because when you are born a muslim, you will saty a muslim or you have to convert to another religion....which will result in muslims putting a death warrant on the muslim who is converting, head!

Obama never stated he wasn't a muslim anymore so he is a muslim.
I think the collective IQ of the nation just dropped several points after this post...
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:07 PM
 
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If people say he is a muslim it might be because when you are born a muslim, you will saty a muslim or you have to convert to another religion....which will result in muslims putting a death warrant on the muslim who is converting, head!

Obama never stated he wasn't a muslim anymore so he is a muslim.
Obama "never stated he wasn't a Muslim anymore" because he wasn't a Muslim to begin with. He was not "born a Muslim." His parents had no religion. His grandfather was a Muslim, and he was named for his father and his grandfather (whom I don't think he even knew). He became a Christian after college, after 20-some years with no religion.

Yes, OP, all those things you listed are true. People who insist that Obama is a Muslim are the same people who just want to believe things because it supports their position, even if it isn't true. And because they don't want to vote for a Muslim because to their bigoted minds, Muslim=Terrorist. Someone needs to remind people like that that plenty of mass murderers and the Timothy McVey's of the world were—gasp!—Christians!
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:09 PM
 
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It seems that there are people who despite the evidence and the candidate's own statements believe Barack Obama is a secret Muslim.
I'd like to know where that leads you in your thinking. I won't place a poll because it seems I am bad at making up enough answers, but here are some possibilities I imagine:

-I won't vote for anyone who isn't Christian.
-I won't vote for a Muslim.
-I won't vote for someone who hides their true beliefs.
-I think Obama has secret ties to extremists.
-I think Obama is aiding terrorists.
-I think Obama wants to make the US a Muslim nation.
-I think Obama is hiding his true agenda.

This is over anyone who think he is a terrorist is ignorant and not hides away from the issues, as McCain is trying to do with his ads that even fox are calling just plain out lies
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Cheshire, UK
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Obama "never stated he wasn't a Muslim anymore" because he wasn't a Muslim to begin with. He was not "born a Muslim." His parents had no religion. His grandfather was a Muslim, and he was named for his father and his grandfather (whom I don't think he even knew). He became a Christian after college, after 20-some years with no religion.

Yes, OP, all those things you listed are true. People who insist that Obama is a Muslim are the same people who just want to believe things because it supports their position, even if it isn't true. And because they don't want to vote for a Muslim because to their bigoted minds, Muslim=Terrorist. Someone needs to remind people like that that plenty of mass murderers and the Timothy McVey's of the world were—gasp!—Christians!
Serbia comes to mind.
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:23 PM
 
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Someone needs to remind people like that that plenty of mass murderers and the Timothy McVey's of the world were—gasp!—Christians!
Someone needs to remind you that there are no western or "Christian" heads of state calling for "Death to Israel!" ,"Death to the Great Satan!", and "Death to the Infidel!". You have buried your head in the sand if you have ignored state-sponsored terrorism since 1993 and its ties to Islamic current political movements.

So, I'm here to remind you..............don't be ignorant (by attempting to be PC).
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:39 PM
 
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* "Interviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia" – implying he was an irregularly practicing Muslim.
* "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers, a few neighbors said" – confirming that he did pray in the mosque.
* "Obama's 3rd-grade teacher at the Catholic school, who lived near the family [said that] ‘Rarely, Barry went to the mosque with Lolo'" – confirming that Obama attended mosque services.

All this matters, for if Obama once was a Muslim, he is now what Islamic law calls a murtadd (apostate), an ex-Muslim converted to another religion who must be executed. Were he elected president of the United States, this status, clearly, would have large potential implications for his relationship with the Muslim world.

Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam - article by Daniel Pipes
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:41 PM
 
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You guys seriously still on this. After our biggest drop in the economy since the depression this what you truly care about......
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:01 PM
 
Location: northeast headed southwest
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All this matters, for if Obama once was a Muslim, he is now what Islamic law calls a murtadd (apostate), an ex-Muslim converted to another religion who must be executed. Were he elected president of the United States, this status, clearly, would have large potential implications for his relationship with the Muslim world.
Please elaborate. What implications?
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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* "Interviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia" – implying he was an irregularly practicing Muslim.
* "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers, a few neighbors said" – confirming that he did pray in the mosque.
* "Obama's 3rd-grade teacher at the Catholic school, who lived near the family [said that] ‘Rarely, Barry went to the mosque with Lolo'" – confirming that Obama attended mosque services.

All this matters, for if Obama once was a Muslim, he is now what Islamic law calls a murtadd (apostate), an ex-Muslim converted to another religion who must be executed. Were he elected president of the United States, this status, clearly, would have large potential implications for his relationship with the Muslim world.

Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam - article by Daniel Pipes
I'm JEWISH and I've been to several mosques and celebrated Muslim holidays. I must be an ex-Muslim! And *gasp* my best friend is a Palestinian. I must be hiding who I truly am!

Daniel Pipes is a bigot- plain and simple. Using him as your basis for Barack Obama's supposed Muslim beliefs is just absolutely hilarious.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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and the candidate's own statements believe Barack Obama is a secret Muslim.
I believe he admitted he was a muslim on This Week with George. "My muslim faith", which George hurriedly corrected for him. Slip of the tongue?
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