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Old 10-01-2008, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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We all know from past elections that the Dems do this to encourage the homeless to vote for their candidate. I am quite sure they aren't at the homeless shelters helping these people the rest of the 4 years between elections.
Perhaps they do, but the republicans could do the same, and according to you, they don't. All votes being equal, why do you suppose that is?

As for the second part of your remark, how do you back this up? My church regularly serves dinner at the neighborhood homeless shelter and we do so every year, election or no.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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But that's not the reason the Democrats round up people from the homeless shelters and take them to the polls, and everyone knows that.
"Everyone knows" or Luzianne wants to believe? I personally choose to believe in the goodness of my fellow human beings. I don't care what political persuasion they are. I know that people can be very generous without wanting anything in return. Your characterization of homeless people being "rounded up" says a lot about how you see them. I don't "round up" other people, and I don't put them down for not sharing the same views and ideals I have. I literally am surrounded by McCain supporters day in and day out. I respect the intelligence and capability of the people I work with, and frankly, even if someone votes for McCain because they like that woman he's running with, that's their reason and if it's good enough for them, then it darn well had better be good enough for me. I can share why I've decided to vote for Obama, and I can share why I didn't decide for McCain. Not everyone agrees with me (shoot, in my world, not anyone agrees with me), but I don't disrespect the people who see this election through different eyes. I celebrate it, it's what free and open elections are all about. So I applaud anyone who can see that voting can be a habit, and getting people to register and vote, for whomever they choose, is a service to all Americans. I thank anyone who drives a homeless person to the polls, who goes out of their way to help someone exercise their right to vote.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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I am quite sure they aren't at the homeless shelters helping these people the rest of the 4 years between elections.
Quite sure?

Interesting.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default How do you know what a person's intent is?

Do you use a crystal ball or something?

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The Dems don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts and you know it. They do it to shore up votes for the Democratic candidate.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:26 AM
 
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Ideally yes, but mostly no. We have multiple precincts voting at each polling place. There aren't enough authorized election workers to meet the demands of keeping up with what's going on at the 30, 40, sometimes more, voting briefcases, which are crammed closely together as shown in the photo link I provided.
We have the same kind of voting stalls, but ours must be more carefully monitored, because no one gets to approach a voter at a booth who isn't an authorized poll worker. They even have a red line taped to the floor that you cannot cross until the poll worker indicates it's your turn to vote. If you are concerned about voter interference, why don't you complain to the workers there, or, for the sake of discretion, to the county clerk's office?
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:30 AM
 
Location: THE TRIAD
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and where is the proof this is going on? What major noteworthy publication vouches for this?
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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We have the same kind of voting stalls, but ours must be more carefully monitored, because no one gets to approach a voter at a booth who isn't an authorized poll worker. They even have a red line taped to the floor that you cannot cross until the poll worker indicates it's your turn to vote. If you are concerned about voter interference, why don't you complain to the workers there, or, for the sake of discretion, to the county clerk's office?
You must be joking! This is Cook County, IL. Many, many voting irregularities are reported EVERY SINGLE ELECTION, even for local contests and primaries. Little is ever done about it.
DataPlace: Map of Cook County, IL
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:59 AM
 
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I have nothing against homeless people voting, but shouldn't they at least proof who they are....they could be convicted felons, sex offenders illegal aliens, etc.....

I heard that they can vote....this campaign makes me think certain people in this country do anything to win and have their candidate win this election which makes it IMO a fraudelent election.

In other countries only people who have identification papers and an address can vote. This to prevent fraud. People get their voting cards send to their address (or you have to give notice that you are away and they will send it to another address if you have proof) to avoid fraud.

In Florida the laws have changed and convicted felons can vote but only the non violence one, so who can proof that the homeless who have no identification are who they are and aren't convicted felons convicted on murder, etc....

If the Dem. take them on a bus to get them to the voting precinct, what else are they giving them to get their vote? Food, money, etc, what does it cost for the Dem. to get that vote?
Which is why this being able to register on the same day is really kind of a dirty trick in my opinion. If people are not responsible enough to register in a timely manner, they aren't responsible enough to vote and all this ends up being is a fraud issue of dirty politics.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:06 PM
 
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"Everyone knows" or Luzianne wants to believe? I personally choose to believe in the goodness of my fellow human beings. I don't care what political persuasion they are. I know that people can be very generous without wanting anything in return. Your characterization of homeless people being "rounded up" says a lot about how you see them. I don't "round up" other people, and I don't put them down for not sharing the same views and ideals I have. I literally am surrounded by McCain supporters day in and day out. I respect the intelligence and capability of the people I work with, and frankly, even if someone votes for McCain because they like that woman he's running with, that's their reason and if it's good enough for them, then it darn well had better be good enough for me. I can share why I've decided to vote for Obama, and I can share why I didn't decide for McCain. Not everyone agrees with me (shoot, in my world, not anyone agrees with me), but I don't disrespect the people who see this election through different eyes. I celebrate it, it's what free and open elections are all about. So I applaud anyone who can see that voting can be a habit, and getting people to register and vote, for whomever they choose, is a service to all Americans. I thank anyone who drives a homeless person to the polls, who goes out of their way to help someone exercise their right to vote.
Im sorry DC, but that has to be the biggest load of spin I have ever read. Uninformed voters are nothing but votes in the pocket of the person doing the helping. It has nothing to do with being intelligent, it has everything to do with people being gullible and believing everything they hear. You certainly can't make the case that many people are not or you wouldn't have the platform for claiming the need to protect all those who have been "mislead" and taken advantage of.

You start telling me about how it is such an honorable thing and I can't help but smell the rank that is coming from the comment. They didn't take the time to register when they had every chance to do so. It isn't hard to do it either. You can do it in a few minutes on the phone or on the internet. Those people who need to be rushed to the polls to register on the day of are nothing more than votes in the pocket for those rushing them there. It is nothing short of fraudlent meddling.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:09 PM
 
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You must be joking! This is Cook County, IL. Many, many voting irregularities are reported EVERY SINGLE ELECTION, even for local contests and primaries. Little is ever done about it.
DataPlace: Map of Cook County, IL
Is the voting situation in Cook County the rule for everywhere, USA, then? Clearly it isn't, because my experience is radically different from yours. If none of the problems are addressed, there must be a reason. If fraud is rampant, do something about it! Don't the voters in your county care? Aren't there newspapers and TV media in your area just itching for a good voter fraud story? If your voting experience is abyssmal, I'm sorry, but even though my vote won't affect the outcome of this national election, I look forward to trying to find a parking space, to accepting a cup of coffee from the church groups that gather just outside the perimeter of the polling place with their conservative petitions, to standing in line and chatting with people about how long they've been waiting, and if all the booths are working properly, to feeling around my purse to make sure I have my license and voter registration card, to getting a gander at all the baked goodies the poll workers have brought to snack on all day, and I look forward to signing my name in the voter rolls, and being given my ballot, and filling it out and putting it in the appropriate boxes.
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