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Old 10-07-2008, 12:33 AM
 
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YouTube - Devastating Video, Obama talks about job Ayers gave him


So Obama says he barely know Ayers, just a neighbor he says.


Well he worked for Ayers in 2001 the same year that the famous Ayers photo of him stomping on MY AMERICAN FLAG was shown in newspapers.

Listen to the debate closely.

He was HIRED by Ayers to channel 50 million dollars to radical friends.

How much more is this country going to take, demand he be removed from the American ballot now.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:52 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Do you even watch these videos?

Lets go over the factual errors here

@1.49 - Rezko hired Obama to set up fraud low income housing scams

Obama worked at a law firm who took Rezmar on as a client after Obama was hired and assigned him to ~5 hrs of work on the multiple cases that the firm defended. REZKO NEVER HIRED OBAMA AND THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER. I don't know if you realize this but lawyers often have to work at firms and defend clients that are not always the greatest people to walk the earth. There is a little thing called the right to a fair trial in the US which makes sure that even though people might be scumbags they still get a chance to defend their actions.

Moving on

@1.48 - Ayers hired Obama for the Annenberg project

Here is the people that Annenberg the philanthropist who funded this unrepentant domestic terrorist hung around with



In the Times article from this week it was proven that Ayers did not hire Obama to chair that committee Patricia A. Graham of the Spencer Foundation (and co-chair of the CAC) hired Obama. The committee worked to distribute the funds of the donation to worthwhile educational causes in Chicago. So is the conservative Annenberg really the supporter of domestic terrorism by giving Bill Ayers the unrepentent terrorist $50,000,000?

The rest of this video in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TIES OBAMA TO AYERS AT ALL. I challenge you to find one single piece of evidence to back up these ridiculous claims. Until then I leave you with the following video in response to yours.


YouTube - Billy Madison - Everyone is now dumber

Edit: removed pic of tinfoil hat wearing wacko to increase the seriousness of this issue instead of playing on the smear level

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Old 10-07-2008, 12:58 AM
 
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Lovely, thorough answer DrJoey. I look forward to the OP's reply.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:04 AM
 
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Not that it will matter because faced with any opposition on CD you are immediately labeled a nut job.

Stanley Kurtz Archive on National Review Online (http://author.nationalreview.com/?q=MjMxNA== - broken link)

The top two stories address your question.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:11 AM
 
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Not that it will matter because faced with any opposition on CD you are immediately labeled a nut job.

Stanley Kurtz Archive on National Review Online (http://author.nationalreview.com/?q=MjMxNA== - broken link)

The top two stories address your question.
I only call people who put up overt lies on here nut jobs. This video is an overt lie.

I have read many of Stanley Kurtzs' articles and have not read a single on were he has provided any evidence that Ayers hired Obama to Chair the CAC. Please if you have reliable evidence from Kurtz or others please post them. Until you guys can provide any formidable evidence indicating that these connections can be made then please do so. So far all that I've heard is fear mongering and hear-say.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:12 AM
 
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Clearly the relationship with Ayers was not just a casual aquaintance. They were involved in varios projects and boards for several years involving several millions in money.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:14 AM
 
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Clearly the relationship with Ayers was not just a casual aquaintance. They were involved in varios projects and boards for several years involving several millions in money.
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okay..so tell me what this means as far as him being president. This is a real question. Not hypothetical.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:18 AM
 
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Clearly the relationship with Ayers was not just a casual aquaintance. They were involved in varios projects and boards for several years involving several millions in money.
Millions of dollars given to Chicago for educational purposes from the conservative Annenberg foundation.

Please further explain to us what the extent of their relationship was and how it was in any way negative. To phrase this another way, if you were given the chance to chair a committee overseeing a large philanthropical donation to better the education of children in your city would you pass it up because of the other members on that board?
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:28 AM
 
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Clearly the relationship with Ayers was not just a casual acquaintance. They were involved in various projects and boards for several years involving several millions in money.
They would have you believe he worked around him for almost 7 years and barely knew the guy. Lived in the same neighborhood and never talked. Introduced to the political scene at his house and barely knows him.

Would they take into account that the CAC was pretty much found to be worthless?

Ohhh by the way this may seem similar from the far left play book:

The Obama camp denies CAC’s radicalism by pointing to the fact that this foundation was funded by Nixon Ambassador and Reagan friend, Walter Annenberg. Moderates and Republicans often support Annenberg activities, it’s true.

I'll get into it more tomorrow as it's late.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:32 AM
 
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Millions of dollars given to Chicago for educational purposes from the conservative Annenberg foundation.

Please further explain to us what the extent of their relationship was and how it was in any way negative. To phrase this another way, if you were given the chance to chair a committee overseeing a large philanthropical donation to better the education of children in your city would you pass it up because of the other members on that board?

If it was just Ayers maybe it would be a non issue. The 20+ other people with questionable ethics do play a role though. And yes if you could help kids learn that would be wonderful to bad it was several years and several million dollars of failure.

I'll go more in depth tomorrow.
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