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Old 10-13-2008, 07:37 PM
 
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Its no longer a two-fer.. its a three-fer

And the guy who STARTED the Obama=Muslim rumor ALSO started this rumor that Barack was born in Kenya!!!

  • "Free Obama's White Grandmother": As Media Matters documented (http://mediamatters.org/items/200703290011 - broken link), in a March 28, 2007, column for NewsMax.com titled "Free Obama's White Grandmother," Martin wrote that Obama, whom he called "one of the most racist politicians in America today," has "locked the grandmother who actually raised him away in a closet," adding: "[T]he 'segregation' of Madelyn Dunham, Obama's white grandmother, and only real grandmother, has to be one of the cruelest and most mendacious political kidnappings this nation has ever seen." Martin wrote that Dunham "is the 'Prisoner of Obama,' and of Obama's racist myth that he is 'Black' and not 'Black and White.' "
  • Birth certificate: Martin falsely claimed in a September 22 column (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fcontrariancommentary.blogspot.c om%2F2008%2F09%2Fandy-martin-calls-nicholas-kristof-of.html - broken link) that "[w]e have not seen a valid Obama birth certificate." In fact, as Media Matters has repeatedly (http://mediamatters.org/items/200810070004?f=h_latest - broken link) documented, in addition to posting a copy of Obama's birth certificate on the campaign website, the Obama campaign reportedly provided the original to FactCheck.org, whose staff reported (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factcheck.org%2Felections-2008%2Fborn_in_the_usa.html - broken link) that they "have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate," and that it "meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship."
  • Obama lying about his upbringing: As Media Matters has noted, discussing Martin's purported research on Obama, author Catherine Moy said in March 2007: "He started doing the research on this. I interviewed him yesterday. He said it was not a madrassa, but that they did teach the Quran, and they did teach that Jews are pigs. So that it -- you know, those kind of things that the Quran teaches, all of those things in the Quran that offend so many, he was taught." The claim that Obama attended a madrassa as a child -- originating in InsightMag.com -- has been thoroughly debunked (http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html - broken link).
http://mediamatters.org/items/200810070011

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NOW COMES the Plaintiff, Philip J. Berg, Esquire [hereinafter “Plaintiff”] and
respectfully requests this Honorable Court to grant A Temporary Restraining Order and
for Expedited Discovery on the following grounds:
P.S. I heard the rapture will be on the fifth Tuesday in November. pass it on.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:38 PM
 
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Who is Phillip J Berg?

Screw Loose Change: Philip J. Berg, Nutbar Supreme

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania - 01/04/07) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, who prior hereto has filed a RICO lawsuit against Bush and others for the events of 9/11 and plans to re-file shortly] announced today that he was issuing a call for world leaders to arrest and try Bush and Cheney for the global crimes of 9/11/01.

Philip J. Berg, Esquire stated in a letter to the nations throughout the world:

"It is time for the nations of the world to come forth and take the leadership because of the failure of the United States Government and the States where crimes were committed on 09/11/01, where no thorough investigation and indictments occurred, to investigate, arrest and prosecute the people responsible for the murders on 9/11/01, specifically including George W. Bush and Richard Cheney."

"Bush and his cronies made 9/11 happen or let it happen. And, if they let it happen, then they made it happen. Either way, they are responsible; and more important, they have completely and unequivocally covered-it-up!"
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:39 PM
 
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Desperation at its worse.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:42 PM
 
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Not that I think there is a conspiracy, but I wonder why an abstract of his birth certificate was used as proof instead of a copy of his original birth certificate.

When you have to prove your identity, you need a copy of your original birth certificate. Why not in this case?
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:44 PM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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I didn't realize Bush votes in congress.

Obama on the other hand, voting with the dems 94% of the time...

Does that include his "present" votes or just the ones he actually said "yes" or "no"?
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:45 PM
 
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So why won't he just release the damn thing?
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:45 PM
 
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Not that I think there is a conspiracy, but I wonder why an abstract of his birth certificate was used as proof instead of a copy of his original birth certificate.

When you have to prove your identity, you need a copy of your original birth certificate. Why not in this case?
please see link in post #101
Stop the madness
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:46 PM
 
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Even IF Obama had been born in Kenya he would still be a natural-born citizen.


Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?


The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.




Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
  • Anyone born inside the United States
  • Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
  • Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
  • Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
  • Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
  • Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
  • Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
  • A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.


(see complete info at link)
Constitutional Topic: Citizenship - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:46 PM
 
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we have a four-fer
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:48 PM
 
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So why won't he just release the damn thing?
Its a rumor. the original was seen and verified
Birth certificate: Martin falsely claimed in a September 22 column (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fcontrariancommentary.blogspot.c om%2F2008%2F09%2Fandy-martin-calls-nicholas-kristof-of.html - broken link) that "[w]e have not seen a valid Obama birth certificate." In fact, as Media Matters has repeatedly (http://mediamatters.org/items/200810070004?f=h_latest - broken link) documented, in addition to posting a copy of Obama's birth certificate on the campaign website, the Obama campaign reportedly provided the original to FactCheck.org, whose staff reported (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factcheck.org%2Felections-2008%2Fborn_in_the_usa.html - broken link) that they "have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate," and that it "meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship."

Media Matters - On Fox News, Hannity hosted Andy Martin -- who has called judge a "crooked, slimy Jew," accused African-Americans in public office of corruption -- in Obama smear-fest
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