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10-13-2008, 08:43 PM
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Mediamatters is as independent as Fox News.
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Originally Posted by sanrene
Mini; Mediamatters is an arm of the democratic party.
Tell me. Which applies?
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10-13-2008, 08:57 PM
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On page 11 the last post I provided PROOF that Obama is a natural born US Citizen regardless of where he was born, even though we all know it was Hawaii.
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10-13-2008, 09:15 PM
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Location: Mesa, Az
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Something tells me Berg had this info and McCain got wind of it, that is why McCain is sitting back and so relaxed.
Several key things have to happen, the DNC and Obama are trying to shut up the judge in the Berg lawsuit. Playing games with him and I am hearing they might be threatening him in some ways.
If they have nothing to hide why would you do this?
My only hope is Berg is able to stop the election dead or get this done before the election because if it is true then Obama is an illegal and will cost this country millions to have the election re done if it is allowed to go on and he wins.
For me, I believe something is coming or Berg and others would have dropped it by now. And Obama would have just shown the real proof and everyone would have been done with it.
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Even if Obama was proven to be a fraud about his birthplace----------Biden would step up and the chances are good to excellent that Hillary would be selected to replace the latter as VP thereby still trumping McCain's choice of VP with the Dems continuing on to win the White House.
McCain IMHO is too badly damaged courtesy of the crashing economy and in the above scenario the 'race card' would be eliminated so it would in essence boil down to a woman vs. woman contest.
Biden=McCain
Clinton=Palin
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10-13-2008, 09:16 PM
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they won't listen. they didn't listen when we tried to tell them the Obama=Muslim story was a hoax. the op in one of s/he posts indicated that obama was a communist for writing a paper on russia in college.... thats illogical.
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10-13-2008, 09:22 PM
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Location: New Mexico
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Originally Posted by Lindsey_Mcfarren
Does NO ONE read the constitution? Based on that hallowed documents definition, Obama is an American citizen because his Mother is an American citizen and able to hold office no different then someone who is born here. Its right there in black and white.
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Stop trying to bring facts into the discussion. The Dubyites here want their fantasies and they won't tolerate anyone muddying up the water with any of that darned reality.  |
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10-13-2008, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sanrene
Mini; Mediamatters is an arm of the democratic party.
Tell me. Which applies?
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These dems will never take any information from anyone or anything unless it comes from the Daily koo- kos. Then they will believe it.
Remember Sanrene, they did not post any polls while McCain was doing well and then when Obama WAS on the move they were all over this forum.
Watch them, when the polls keeping dropping for Obama they will find something else.
What will they do if this becomes true, Obama gets nailed for RICO violations or if something else comes up, they will be in deep trouble because BO breathe has suckered them in so bad they will all lose it.
They stand by a man who is known to be nothing but trouble what else would these people do. |
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10-13-2008, 09:44 PM
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Location: Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by Centaurmyst
Even IF Obama had been born in Kenya he would still be a natural-born citizen.
Natural-born citizen
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
- Anyone born inside the United States
- Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
- Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
- Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
- Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
- Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
- Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
- A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.
(see complete info at link)
Constitutional Topic: Citizenship - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net |
Nope!
Laws back then were that the US citizen (his mother) woud have to be 21 years old - she was 18...
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10-13-2008, 09:52 PM
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Obama did not want to release his medical and school records because that may tell us where he was born.
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10-13-2008, 09:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro2008
Nope!
Laws back then were that the US citizen (his mother) woud have to be 19 years old - she was 18...
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They are in total denial, she was not old enough and therefore Obama is not a natural born US citizen.
Many ways to look at this and they are bad for Obama.
Excuses and denials are part of liberals minds.
Why is Obama not being a man and ending this himself. Instead he is playing games of hide and seek. |
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10-13-2008, 09:57 PM
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Location: Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by smd1998
They are in total denial, she was not old enough and therefore Obama is not a natural born US citizen.
Many ways to look at this and they are bad for Obama.
Excuses and denials are part of liberals minds.
Why is Obama not being a man and ending this himself. Instead he is playing games of hide and seek.
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He wants to delay the judge's order to provide the documentation so he can win the WH and have the laws changed - the Constitution probably means about as much to "The One" as the U.S. Flag... |
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