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Old 10-17-2008, 11:55 AM
 
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873 Democrats; 650 Republicans

There is a link on Drudgereport but it opens to a pdf file.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:57 AM
 
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Look at the group though.

873 Democrats; 650 Republicans

There is a link on Drudgereport but it opens to a pdf file.
I REALLY, REALLY hate to rain on your excitement but that AP/YAHOO POLL IS AN ONLINE POLL!!!! From October 3rd none the less.

But if this makes you happy, then I'm all for it!!! All the doom and gloom news from the polling would have me upset too if I were a McCain supporter so I understand your frustration.

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For one thing, the poll is not timely. It entered the field on October 3 -- two weeks ago -- and left the field on October 13, which was this Monday.

For another thing, it's an internet-based poll:
The survey was conducted using the web-enabled KnowledgePanelSM, a probability-based Panel designed to be representative of the U.S. population. Initially, participants are chosen scientifically by a random selection of telephone numbers. Persons in selected households are then invited by telephone to participate in the webenabled KnowledgePanelSM. For those who agree to participate, but do not already have Internet access, Knowledge Networks provides at no cost an Internet appliance and Internet service connection. People who already have computers and Internet service are permitted to participate using their own equipment. Panelists then receive unique log-in information for accessing surveys online, and then are sent emails three to four times a month inviting them to participate in research.
For a third thing, it has no likely voter screen, and the horse race question does not even appear to have a registered voter screen ... it's a poll of all adults.
Sorry.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:58 AM
 
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Yeah, I saw this one as well. Rasmussen is at 4.

The Battleground is stunning. From 13 to 4 in 4 days.

Who says the Ayers thing isn't working? CBS? NBC? ABC?
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:58 AM
 
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You may never have heard of the AP-Yahoo poll before. This is for good reason, since a look at the fine print reveals that it's not really intended for its horse race numbers (the AP uses a separate agency, GfK, for those).

FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right: Bad Spin Watch: Drudge Touts Weeks-Old, Web-Based Poll
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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Yeah, I saw this one as well. Rasmussen is at 4.

The Battleground is stunning. From 13 to 4 in 4 days.

Who says the Ayers thing isn't working? CBS? NBC? ABC?
RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:14 PM
 
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Yeah, I saw this one as well. Rasmussen is at 4.

The Battleground is stunning. From 13 to 4 in 4 days.

Who says the Ayers thing isn't working? CBS? NBC? ABC?
Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll - broken link)
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 46%. These figures reflect a remarkably stable race in which Obama has enjoyed a four-to-eight point advantage for twenty-two straight days. The last time McCain was up by even a single point was one month ago today (see trends).
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:15 PM
 
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Yeah, I saw this one as well. Rasmussen is at 4.

The Battleground is stunning. From 13 to 4 in 4 days.

Who says the Ayers thing isn't working? CBS? NBC? ABC?
Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll - broken link)
In Missouri, Obama leads by six. In Ohio, the race is tied. On the issues, 40% now believe their taxes will go up if Obama is elected and 30% say the same about a McCain Administration Those numbers reflect tremendous improvement for Obama over the past couple of months (see trends).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update (broken link)

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Old 10-17-2008, 04:16 PM
 
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Obviously, AP was shocked that it was only a 2% race. Notice their title? Did the even give the results of the poll in the article or did you have to open the PDF?

Hilarious! You can safely assume if Obama had an 8 point lead the title would have blared it across the airwaves.

2% - With 15% more democrat respondents than republicans.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:53 PM
 
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Obviously, AP was shocked that it was only a 2% race. Notice their title? Did the even give the results of the poll in the article or did you have to open the PDF?

Hilarious! You can safely assume if Obama had an 8 point lead the title would have blared it across the airwaves.

2% - With 15% more democrat respondents than republicans.
Does Real Clear Politics list it as one of the credible polls they report? If so when will it show up?
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If they don't then readers you should wonder and ask that question yourself. Is it reputable and why is it not reported?
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