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Old 10-17-2008, 12:54 PM
 
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Some discussion on these topics was included in the first debate:
Check out the transcripts.
Thanks - guess they went right past me

edit - you're right, mostly the first debate, and the second recapitulated what they'd said in the first. Thanks!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...pi.transcript/

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/pr...al-debate.html
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:57 PM
 
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Links to some veterans' groups' "scorecards" for McCain, Obama and others here:

Soldier's Home : Veterans Group Rates McCain/Obama Voting Record (and the Rest of Congress Too)
That's highly partisan IAVA core leadership stuff.

Edit to add;
Follow the links all the way into the actual bills.
Dig deep.

Lots of poison pill amendments , pure pork, garbage that has nothing to do with veterans.
Check out the sponsors & co-sponsors ( names And numbers) the vote break-outs etc.

Then decide.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:03 PM
 
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The Congress just passed an bill addressing alot of the veteran's issues. I am still back on the post that blamed the Clinton's for the VA. The VA has always and forever been underfunded. My uncle was a WWII vet and he told us he would rather die in the streets than be confined to a VA hospital. And since he died a month before the Clinton's took office, seems they could not have done too much. Champus did not pay nearly as well as TriCare did when it first started. We were able to get doctors that would not take Champus and it brought money into the base hospitals, so much so, that we had to get permission at Nellis, to use TriCare off base because the hospital liked getting those payments directly. I think there are different situations and no President is ever out to get the vet, they just do not have a big pull once they are retired.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:19 PM
 
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Thanks - guess they went right past me

edit - you're right, mostly the first debate, and the second recapitulated what they'd said in the first. Thanks!

Transcript of first presidential debate - CNN.com

Second Presidential Debate - McCain and Obama - Transcript - Election Guide 2008 - The New York Times - Election Guide 2008 - The New York Times
Thanks for the links.

Based on some of Mr. Obama's statements , I seriously doubt that
General Powell will endorse him.
IMO , it would take a complete 180 degree turn-around by Mr. Obama
( a public 180 ) to earn General Powell's endorsement.
It really is as simple as that.
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Old 10-17-2008, 02:22 PM
 
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In a related matter .......

VA Claims Found in Piles to be Shredded - Military Times, Oct. 17, 2008

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Department of Veterans Affairs regional offices have been ordered to immediately stop shredding documents after an investigation found some benefits claims and supporting documents among piles of papers waiting to be destroyed.

Claims often include personal records supplied by veterans that are not duplicated in government files and might be difficult to replace, such as certificates for births, deaths and marriage.

In a statement, VA Secretary James Peake said only a handful of documents were found among piles of documents set aside to be shredded. But he is not pleased.

“I insist on the highest possible standards for processing and safeguarding information in VA’s custody,” Peake said. “It is unacceptable that documents important to a veteran’s claim for benefits should be misplaced or destroyed.”

Peake said three of VA’s 57 regional offices were involved, without naming them. Veterans of Foreign Wars said they were told four regional offices — in Detroit, St. Louis, St. Petersburg, Fla., and Waco, Texas — were identified as having documents in shredding bins that should not have been there.
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Old 10-17-2008, 02:26 PM
 
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It is odd that none of the debates addressed the future of the military, the vets, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, national security... I suppose they agreed beforehand not to discuss them, but why not?

Because they figured people were more concerned about their wallets. The military plays second fiddle as usual, do you REALLY think obamaites care about those that defend THIS country? Please, they get a woodie type gleam in their eye if bad news happens in Iraq.

McCain = Country First
obama = Change the BEST country in the world.
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