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Old 10-28-2008, 04:40 PM
 
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The absolute hatred for America this group,The Alaskan Independence Party, has is frightening. Sarah Palin's connecton to such a group as well as her husband having been a MEMBER for at least 7 years is just sickening. talk about TRAITORS.


YouTube - Explosive Tape- Meet Joe Vogler (Sarah Palin's AIP Pal)
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Old 10-28-2008, 04:43 PM
 
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The absolute hatred for America this group,The Alaskan Independence Party, has is frightening. Sarah Palin's connecton to such a group as well as her husband having been a MEMBER for at least 7 years is just sickening. talk about TRAITORS.


YouTube - Explosive Tape- Meet Joe Vogler (Sarah Palin's AIP Pal)
I agree....Palin forgot to mention that HER part of America definitely has some UN-American areas and she and Toddy are PART OF IT!
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Old 10-28-2008, 04:47 PM
 
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This again...how many times is this going to be posted?

Alaska has actually had a governor who was a member of the AIP.

I think that what is appealing about the party is their commitment to less federal involvement in Alaska rather than Joe Vogler's ravings.
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Old 10-28-2008, 04:59 PM
 
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I agree....Palin forgot to mention that HER part of America definitely has some UN-American areas and she and Toddy are PART OF IT!
I'll tell you what--come back and talk about this after you grab a book or two. The Book of the Tongass by Milkweed Press would be a good place to start.


And please learn the difference between the federal government and "America".

Some of us have more than every right to resent what they have done in parts of our state.

And don't give me the old BS about federal tax money being spent here. Find out where most of that money goes and then we'll talk.

I know that some of you think this "cancels out" the Ayers thing and that's why you keep bleating about it; I don't know why you don't understand that the smear campaign run by the McCain camp. is a big part of why he is losing and take a cue from that.
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:04 PM
 
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The absolute hatred for America this group,The Alaskan Independence Party, has is frightening. Sarah Palin's connecton to such a group as well as her husband having been a MEMBER for at least 7 years is just sickening. talk about TRAITORS.


YouTube - Explosive Tape- Meet Joe Vogler (Sarah Palin's AIP Pal)

Not sure but I dont think they have tried to blow up the pentagon yet, oh but thats right "The Messiahs" friend did, and was a part of the Weather Underground; do some research on them.
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:05 PM
 
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I'll tell you what--come back and talk about this after you grab a book or two. The Book of the Tongass by Milkweed Press would be a good place to start.


And please learn the difference between the federal government and "America".

Some of us have more than every right to resent what they have done in parts of our state.

And don't give me the old BS about federal tax money being spent here. Find out where most of that money goes and then we'll talk.

I know that some of you think this "cancels out" the Ayers thing and that's why you keep bleating about it; I don't know why you don't understand that the smear campaign run by the McCain camp. is a big part of why he is losing and take a cue from that.
I think Obama supporters just get frustrated with the fact that the McCain supporters blatantly ignore or outright deny their own candidates' questionable associations. Can you imagine their outrage if Michelle Obama belonged to this party? But, overall, I agree with you. Obama has definitely taken the high road--HE certainly hasn't even mentioned Palin's connection to the AIP or any of McCain's dubious connections--and that, in part, is what will win him this election.
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:08 PM
 
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I agree....Palin forgot to mention that HER part of America definitely has some UN-American areas and she and Toddy are PART OF IT!
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:18 PM
 
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The absolute hatred for America this group,The Alaskan Independence Party, has is frightening. Sarah Palin's connecton to such a group as well as her husband having been a MEMBER for at least 7 years is just sickening. talk about TRAITORS.


YouTube - Explosive Tape- Meet Joe Vogler (Sarah Palin's AIP Pal)



I'm not sure what's up with Joe Vogler. He seems a little bitter. Anyways here's the link to the party's platform page. From what I read so far, I like it. Government that is responsible to the citizens sounds good to me.

Alaskan Independence Party
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:28 PM
 
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I'm not sure what's up with Joe Vogler. He seems a little bitter.
He's been dead since '92.

It's my opinion that at one time, Todd Palin had political aspirations of his own, which is why he joined the AIP. It worked for Wally Hickel, after all.

My point in these discussions has always been that Alaskans have good reason to deeply resent some aspects of federal involvement in Alaska.
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:29 PM
 
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Timothy McVeigh's mentor Norm Olsen is a member of AIP as well.
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