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Old 10-21-2008, 09:02 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Okay, I'll bite. A letter from January alleging irregularities in a state's caucus procedures is supposed to be the October surprise? Caucuses are strikingly different from primaries. Hence, the reference to "preference cards". Caucuses are also conducted by the parties, and paid for by the parties, not by the states. A milling mass of people arguing over who to support, looking over pamphlets and various other materials being handed out by various candidate supporters, people setting aside sections of the room for supporters of this candidate and sections for that candidate, adjusting the sizes of the sections as needed, it's a sort of controlled chaos that abounds with "irregularities". Your news source isn't even American. October surprise? Not.
Obama attempted some pretty un-American ways of making things go to his side. Pure Chicago Machine politics, nothing the rest of this country needs to deal with. You can't refute what was said so instead you try to brush it aside as "nothing" just like Obama does with every question that's raised about him.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Piedmont, CA
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How much pressure do you think the GOP put on Ron Paul to get out of the way? What about Huckabee? And Romney?

These complaints for the most part are heresay and sour grapes.

No teeth.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:08 AM
 
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Obama attempted some pretty un-American ways of making things go to his side. Pure Chicago Machine politics, nothing the rest of this country needs to deal with. You can't refute what was said so instead you try to brush it aside as "nothing" just like Obama does with every question that's raised about him.
I refuted your suggestion that this was an October surprise. I refuted that your source has any genuine credibility with regard to American politics. I didn't try to brush it aside as "nothing", but I pointed out that the letter was 10 months old, that caucuses are rife with "irregularities", and that it is a party issue, and strictly a party issue.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:20 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Look, Hillary Clinton wanted to WIN... these were the lengths that her campaign went to for a WIN. McCain wants to WIN... these are the lengths that his campaign are going to for a WIN...

See a pattern emerging?

Point is, Hillary Clinton is now solidly behind Senator Obama. I think he's proven a lot to her and his handle of the general election and respect towards she and her husband has given her confidence in an Obama presidency and she is probably completely disappointed in the McCain campaign at this point. This was evident when she was stumping with him yesterday in Florida!
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:35 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton wants to be president in 2013 and Obama will be in the way of her goals.
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