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Old 10-21-2008, 03:41 PM
 
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Not sure if its socialism or not.

But I am damned sure that its a lousy use of money by the state of AK.

If I were governor of AK, I'd first look to see if there are any bond issues that need to be paid off to save my citizens the interest expenses. Does AK have a rainy day fund for unknown contingencies such as forest fires, oil spills, epidemics, earthquakes, tsunami's, etc? Are there items on the to-do list, like a bridge or two? Are all the citizens of AK covered by healthcare, or is their state Public Health Dept ready for whatever comes their way?

To blindly write checks to the citizens is pandering to them and NOT looking out for the state's future, it's simply a cheap political stunt.
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Old 10-21-2008, 03:58 PM
 
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Actually it is on federal land but only Alaskans got the benefit of it. Also, since higher taxes raise prices, the rest of the real Americans paid more so Alaskans could have windfall. But it is a form of wealth redistribution but no industries were nationalized, but they are subsidized on federal land.
I never said is not federal I said is public land. Federal land is public land, just like any other national park.
It should be a a check for every single american, but only the federal gov. can do that and not Palin. Any goods that comes from public land should be:
1. for the government
2. for the people
3. for the government and the people.

Or the land should be sold to make it private.
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:00 PM
 
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Is taxing the profits on Alaska's oil and gas to distribute a check to every citizen socialism?

Why yes, I believe it is! LOL! Why the mental gymnastics about "public property" and "private property". It is a tax on a business, that is then re-distributed!
Well because public property is not private.
Again if a private company comes to my back yard and finds gold, is that gold his or mine?
Socialist: That gold should be for everybody
Capitalist: that gold should be for the owner of the property.
Since the owner of the property is everybody(or government) then that oil belongs to the government.

Now it would be really wrong to tax the alaska oil companies if they are in private land.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:02 PM
 
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Not sure if its socialism or not.

But I am damned sure that its a lousy use of money by the state of AK.

If I were governor of AK, I'd first look to see if there are any bond issues that need to be paid off to save my citizens the interest expenses. Does AK have a rainy day fund for unknown contingencies such as forest fires, oil spills, epidemics, earthquakes, tsunami's, etc? Are there items on the to-do list, like a bridge or two? Are all the citizens of AK covered by healthcare, or is their state Public Health Dept ready for whatever comes their way?

To blindly write checks to the citizens is pandering to them and NOT looking out for the state's future, it's simply a cheap political stunt.
Judging by the definition of socialism often given by our conservative brethren, Sarah Palin is the most socialist governor in the history of socialism.

But, I'd say Alaskans aren't in need of letting their state government pay for such things like bridges and other infrastructure. That's our job, as citizens of fake America, to pay taxes which are redistributed to Alaska.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:05 PM
 
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I could not believe it when I heard that Alaskans get a check just for breathing - talk about a welfare state!
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:08 PM
 
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To blindly write checks to the citizens is pandering to them and NOT looking out for the state's future, it's simply a cheap political stunt.
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Judging by the definition of socialism often given by our conservative brethren, Sarah Palin is the most socialist governor in the history of socialism.

Okay. One thing. The Alaska Permanent Fund is not something that Sarah Palin started...and it certainly isn't something that she can end.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:15 PM
 
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Well, she can see Russia from her house. What a commie!
No she can't, she lied.

For the geographically challenged Palin supporters, an island that is part of Russia can be seen only from a small Alaskan island with a population of about 150 inhabitants, and she has never been there.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:15 PM
 
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Okay. One thing. The Alaska Permanent Fund is not something that Sarah Palin started...and it certainly isn't something that she can end.
Very true. She did increase taxes though to increase that dividend payment under her term. It certainly didn't seem to be something she opposed.

I just wonder, if redistributing wealth is good enough for Alaskans, why we can't have a working and middle class tax cut for the rest of Americans?
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:17 PM
 
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Very true. She did increase taxes though to increase that dividend payment under her term. It certainly didn't seem to be something she opposed.
Whose taxes did she increase?
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:20 PM
 
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Whose taxes did she increase?
Isn't it amazing how many people that live in the lower 48 think they are experts on Alaska?...You tell 'em my queen.
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