U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Covid-19 Information Page
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 10-24-2008, 11:02 AM
 
2,072 posts, read 4,590,527 times
Reputation: 1864

Advertisements

Obama wants to spread the enormous wealth of America by giving Americans with the MOST NEED tax breaks and opportunities to improve themselves economically. In other words, Obama wants every American to live the American dream in such a rich and prosperous nation.

McCain wants billion-dollar corporations, million-dollar CEO's and Wall Street Corporate Exec's to keep the wealth of America by giving them more tax breaks and more control over the economic wealth of America. In other words, McCain wants the greedy, money hoarding rich to have it all at the expense of the poor and average American.

Obama's approach of sharing and spreading the wealth of this great nation is consistant with the very principals and ideas which were envisioned by the founding fathers and authors of The U.S. Constitution.

McCains apprach of giving more to money hoarding coporations and the super-rich, seems more consistant with rogue states, dictatorships, or third world nations where the rich and super-rich control the economy and society while the small middle-class and much larger lower-class suffers. This is purely un-American.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-24-2008, 11:08 AM
 
878 posts, read 1,946,574 times
Reputation: 463
If Obama were really giving "tax breaks" I would agree with his position.

But he's not. His "tax breaks" are going to people who don't pay taxes. Taking money from others has no place in the American Dream. The chance to earn your money without restriction is central to the American Dream.

Not only that, but when only a small portion of the populace pays the majority of taxes, that small portion has a greater ability to control how the government acts. If only the super-rich paid taxes (say the top 10 people), then the government has a huge incentive to keep those 10 people making money in this country. If any of those 10 don't get their way, they can leave the country, costing the government 10% of its income.

When the tax burden is distributed fairly, the loss of a single contributer is not as sharply felt.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 11:14 AM
 
Location: DFW Texas
3,114 posts, read 7,048,847 times
Reputation: 2180
Quote:
Originally Posted by zman0 View Post
His "tax breaks" are going to people who don't pay taxes. Taking money from others has no place in the American Dream. The chance to earn your money without restriction is central to the American Dream.
Very true! If you are giving a "tax break" to someone who doesn't even pay taxes, that is just another form of welfare, and IMO is just another step towards SOCIALISM!!!

Socialism is very UN-AMERICAN
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
973 posts, read 2,067,231 times
Reputation: 382
Quote:
Originally Posted by dorado0359 View Post
This is purely un-American.
No, un-American is not creating the LAWS that give everyone a fair chance at a good life. The government stepping in to re-distribute money as they see fit is NOT the right answer to be "American." Sounds like you're buying into Biden's BS that it's "Patriotic to pay more taxes." I'm definitely not happy with the Republican party either, like the economic "stimulus packages" and massive government spending in recent years, and I can't stand most conservative social values. However, as a socially-liberal and fiscally-conservative Independent, I can't stand the idea of imposed socialism with government redistribution of wealth through taxpayer money.

If you want an "American" solution to the poor and middle class having a better opportunity, repeal NAFTA to bring the manufacturing and textile jobs that many poor and middle class citizens have depended on back to this country. Heavily reduce government spending so that less taxes need to be taken from everyone - the poor already get ALL their federal income taxes back at the end of the year! Enact laws to regulate the healthcare industry, like drastically limiting malpractice claims and hold doctors and hospitals accountable with their reputations in the open, instead of socializing it or handing out rebate checks to cover insurance.

As the founding fathers intended, this country doesn't have to spend a lot of money to give everyone a better life and the opportunity to succeed. It just has to enact the proper laws that allow this to be possible.

Don't even think one party is better than the other for the poor or middle class. They both are funded by corporate lobbyists of big business, and that's their primary concern behind the eloquent speeches and steadfast patriotism. These socialist plans being brought forth by both parties in recent years only enslaves the poor and middle class to the government. There's nothing free about being dependent on government money, especially when the wealthy get tired of shouldering the burden. When most of the wealthiest 10% move to friendlier places like Switzerland and Dubai while taking their companies to other countries with lower corporate taxes (as they've been doing), what will the poor and middle class do under a bankrupt nation with no jobs?

I can't stand what both parties have done to this country, and love it when I see more support for Independents and 3rd parties every election.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 11:26 AM
 
1,861 posts, read 3,114,598 times
Reputation: 561
I agree with Obama's position entirely.

When a nation and it's corporations are wealthy, according to the trickle-down theory (which is a scam, btw), everyone is supposed to prosper when the company does well. That is, decent pay, as an example.

However, the average American's wages have stagnated since the 1970's, and other jobs are sent overseas.

So, tax breaks for the rich - those "temporary" ones - should be discontinued, at the very least.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 11:40 AM
 
12,643 posts, read 18,950,625 times
Reputation: 3028
McCain wants to Grow everyone's wealth

http://www.economistsformccain.com/ObamaStatement.html#Signatories (broken link)

Last edited by Miborn; 10-24-2008 at 11:50 AM..
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2021, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top