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Old 10-27-2008, 09:24 AM
 
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Wow oh wow and this is their view of Democracy? When will they stop and let voters decide this election?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20081016/cm_thenation/45372992 (broken link)
While the GOP continues to accuse Democrats of voter fraud, top Republican operatives are getting busted for voter suppression.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:27 AM
 
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Voter registration fraud is much tamer than actual vote fraud (suppression, purging etc) as it's more about making money than altering an election. It's amazing how as a country we tell other nations how they should elect their officials, we blast them when there is corruption during their elections yet we do nothing about it here. Such hypocrisy should not be accepted at any level.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Downtown Greensboro, NC
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Well its about damn time. The republicans have been getting away with this for the last two elections and this was exactly how Bush won the last two elections. Montana is one of those states where it doesnt take alot. There are only about 600,000 people that live in Montana.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:29 AM
 
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Sorry, I didnt see any fraud, in fact

Republicans raised concerns with registered voters who live at addresses that differed from the addresses listed on their voter registration information

Why would that not raise a concern for Democrats as well?
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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two sides to this issue:
Democrats "voter registration" efforts do, sometimes, attempt to register those who are not eligible.

Republican "voter suppression" efforts have numerous tactics for vote switching, rejecting large numbers of registered Democrats, etc.

Seems to me that this is an "unbalanced" situation!
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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Republicans raised concerns with registered voters who live at addresses that differed from the addresses listed on their voter registration information. The party asked that county election officials ask voters to prove their current addresses.
So let me understand this....democrats and organizations like ACORN turn in fraudulent registrations, ACORN admits they can't stop the fraudulent registrations and then when the republicans ask for the registrations to be verified in any way (photo ID, asking if people really live at the address where they registered) then that is voter suppression?
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:41 AM
 
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Voter suppression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In the U.S. presidential election of 2004, some voters got phone calls with false information intended to keep them from voting--saying that their voting place had been changed or that voting would take place on Wednesday as well as on Tuesday.[10][11]

Other allegations surfaced in several states that the group called Voters Outreach of America had collected and submitted Republican voter registration forms while inappropriately disposing of Democratic registration forms.[12][13][14][15].

Michigan Republican state legislator John Pappageorge was quoted as saying, "If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election."[16].

In the 2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal, Republican officials attempted to reduce the number of Democratic voters by paying professional telemarketers in Idaho to make repeated hang-up calls to block Democrats' ride-to-the-polls phone lines on election day.[8][9]

[edit] 2004 presidential election

During the United States Senate election in Virginia, 2006, Secretary of the Virginia State Board of Elections Jean Jensen concluded that the incidents of voter suppression appeared widespread and deliberate. Documented incidents of voter suppression include:[19]

* Democratic voters receiving calls incorrectly informing them voting will lead to arrest.
* Widespread calls fraudulently claiming to be "Webb Volunteers," falsely telling voters their voting location had changed.
* Fliers paid for by the Republican Party , stating "SKIP THIS ELECTION" caused was allegedly an attempt to suppress African-American turnout.

The FBI has since launched an investigation into the suppression attempts.[20]
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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So let me understand this....democrats and organizations like ACORN turn in fraudulent registrations, ACORN admits they can't stop the fraudulent registrations and then when the republicans ask for the registrations to be verified in any way (photo ID, asking if people really live at the address where they registered) then that is voter suppression?
The Republican War on Voting | The American Prospect
The Republican War on Voting

Using the Department of Justice, friendly governors, and its usual propaganda outlets, the GOP has propagated the myth of voter fraud to purge the rolls of non-Republicans.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:47 AM
 
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So let me understand this....democrats and organizations like ACORN turn in fraudulent registrations, ACORN admits they can't stop the fraudulent registrations and then when the republicans ask for the registrations to be verified in any way (photo ID, asking if people really live at the address where they registered) then that is voter suppression?
t r u t h o u t | Exclusive | Emails Detail RNC Voter Supression in 5 States
Previously undisclosed documents detail how Republican operatives, with the knowledge of several White House officials, engaged in an illegal, racially-motivated effort to suppress tens of thousands of votes during the 2004 presidential campaign in a state where George W. Bush was trailing his Democratic challenger, Senator John Kerry.

The documents also contain details describing how Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign officials, and at least one individual who worked for White House political adviser Karl Rove, planned to stop minorities residing in Cuyahoga County from voting on election day.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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truthout? that's moveon on steroids.

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t r u t h o u t | Exclusive | Emails Detail RNC Voter Supression in 5 States
Previously undisclosed documents detail how Republican operatives, with the knowledge of several White House officials, engaged in an illegal, racially-motivated effort to suppress tens of thousands of votes during the 2004 presidential campaign in a state where George W. Bush was trailing his Democratic challenger, Senator John Kerry.

The documents also contain details describing how Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign officials, and at least one individual who worked for White House political adviser Karl Rove, planned to stop minorities residing in Cuyahoga County from voting on election day.
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