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Old 10-31-2008, 09:03 AM
 
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It is amazing that these people are complaining about Obama being Big Brother, yet they have NOTHING to say about Bush and the many ways that their privacy is being infringed upon. Amazing.

~ButterBrownBiscuit~

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Originally Posted by cohdane View Post
I already saw what you're "seeing" beginning in 2000:

Have you missed Big Brother Bush listening in on your phonecalls, checking up on which library books you read and snooping through your emails?

Have you missed the unprecedented lack of regular press conferences the Big Brother Bush gave at the White House? Or that reporters who had the nerve to ask unpleasant follow-ups were not invited back?

Have you missed Big Brother Bush so intimidating the Press with bullying tactics that people like Dan Rather's careers were ruined and no major media outlet had the guts to challenge the "research" behind the Iraq war?

Have you missed Big Brother Bush's brothers in power-- arrogant and bold faced Cronyism that leaves people like "Brownie" in charge of city destroying catastrophes?

Have you missed Big Brother Bush's loyal cronies committing treason by outing Valerie Plame as "punishment" for disagreeing with his policies?




I'm glad you can see into the future, Nostradamus. Too bad you're a bit blind to the present.
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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EDUCATE YOURSELF!!! You are regurgitating mindless dribble.

Republicans want STATES to decide.. They are not proposing a NATIONWIDE BAN as Democrats want you to believe.

Republicans want SMALL GOVERNMENT... In all ASPECTS
Educating one's self involves more than going to a candidate's website and mindlessly believing things that don't even make sense.

Tax cuts for 95% of Americans?

He'll be able to do that, pay for all his new spending and balance a budget?

Withdrawal from Iraq while we're still dependent on their oil?

Any chance civil war will break out?

Iran won't intervene?

We won't have to go right back in?

Etc, etc, etc...........
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Regurgitating mindless dribble?! Did you not read your first post in the thread.

There is NOTHING that Bush or McCain have done to make government smaller, or give more power to states. A true conservative would not be in favor of a large government bailout plan that both Bush and McCain were for. I can understand why you would wanted a limited federal government with more power to the states, however; the current Republicans have nothing in line with original conservative philosophies.




"A true conservative would not be in favor of a large government bailout plan"

What choice did they have after the Democrats took us down this road?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:13 AM
 
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For the last eight years, I've watched the Bush Administration behave the way I was taught the Soviet Union behaved behind the Iron Curtain.

Up is down.
The press repeats White House news releases verbatim.
Intimidation of dissenters.
Spying on your own people.
Secretly arresting people.
Torturing people.

This is not America. This is not the country I was taught to be proud of. I hope we can change this course before we become USSA. Or worse.
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:14 AM
 
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Actually it is Obama that wants the states to decide for Gay marriage.
Got a link?

Anything?
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:19 AM
 
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Educating one's self involves more than going to a candidate's website and mindlessly believing things that don't even make sense.

Tax cuts for 95% of Americans?

He'll be able to do that, pay for all his new spending and balance a budget?

Withdrawal from Iraq while we're still dependent on their oil?
Try McCain on for size:

Tax cuts for 100% of Americans?

He'll be able to do that, pay for all his new spending AND A WAR and balance a budget?

Stay in Iraq "as long as it takes" regardless of our own economy imploding at home, our own infrastructure crumbling into ruin, our own family members getting maimed and killed over there, despite the fact that IRAQ IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE IN THE WORLD WHERE WE CAN GET OIL?

Can you say "Vietnam"? McCain can. And does a lot. It's all he thinks of....how the soldiers came home in defeat from an unpopular war. Never again. Never again. Never again. He's vowed it. We'll stay so our soldiers "can return victorious." The guy's on a mission and it's not for our country. It's personal.
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:21 AM
 
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Because Bush is irrelevant. He is gone in three months. The only relevance Bush has is he is a convenient distraction to go to when people ask for details about your plans and point out that much of it is self contradicting and illogical. Well at least we won't have eight more years of Bush right?
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Bethesda, MD
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
"A true conservative would not be in favor of a large government bailout plan"

What choice did they have after the Democrats took us down this road?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related
YouTube videos? That's your best source?! Spare your crap, this current mess can be shared by BOTH parties. Regardless, Bush has been asleep for the past 8 years to not do anything to foresee this problem.

Why are so many true conservatives not endorsing McCain?
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:27 AM
 
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What do we really know about this man and his plans?

Is anyone else seeing what I see?
What do we know? LOL - good Lord, man, he laid out his plans two years ago in "The Audacity of Hope". And he's stuck to that same message in the two years since that book came out.

We don't even know if McCain's plans this morning will be the same ones he supports this afternoon.
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:28 AM
 
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Because Bush is irrelevant. He is gone in three months. The only relevance Bush has is he is a convenient distraction to go to when people ask for details about your plans and point out that much of it is self contradicting and illogical. Well at least we won't have eight more years of Bush right?
But we'll have at least four more years of his economic policies if McCain wins.
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