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Old 10-31-2008, 02:50 PM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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Of course we who have a mind of our own, educated and investigate/research the FACTS for ourselves all know that NONE of these things are true about the Senator. However, there are those people who seem to post here (3000 posts in 3 months by one person alone) say such terrible things about the Senator, it makes me believe that they are either:

1. On the McCain campaign payroll.
2. Hate/Fear mongerers
3. Trying to solicit the "retard" vote (people like the lady that McCain snatched the mic from when she said "Obama....is an Arab" and a visibly disgusted McCain says "No ma'am....that is NOT true.....that is NOT true")
4. Silly individuals who are think of themselves as online "Karl Rove" and could help decide the outcome of the election by constantly posting/saying outrageous things without ANY factual evidence to support it.
5. They are just ignorant themselves.
6. Just would not like to see a black (half black) president.

We all know who these people are. They make these outlandish posts, then disappear when other post to engage them in debate/conversations of actual facts. Those who dont disappear, more often than not, are afraid of having intellectual debate as they just resort to things like "Oh, you spelled xxxx word wrong, you must be liberal" or "You pretend to be Republican but ....." or "I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend that 30 years ago......".

This being the last weekend before the Presidential election, we can expect these goofballs to really up the stupidity of their posts all in hopes of trying to convince people to vote their way.

Please please please, do your research and learn about the candidates yourself from reliable sources before you make your decision.

Thank you.

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Old 10-31-2008, 02:56 PM
 
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A lot of members of my family are voting for McCain and none of them believe that Obama is a Muslim, communist or anything like that. In fact, I mentioned the Obama not being born in America theory to my dad the other night and he didn't believe that people were that stupid to believe something like that. I think that there are intelligent people voting for McCain. I don't think McCain would be a bad president, I just think Obama would do better. Just my opinion. Sarah scares me though and it seems like she undermines McCain more often than not.

The fact that people are voting for McCain does not bother me or make me think less of them. What bothers me is when people are stupid and mean.
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:59 PM
 
Location: FL
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Ok GaBeez explain this away: Bill Ayers book dedicated to Sirhan Sirhan (assassinated RFK)- how will it affect the electorate?
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:07 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Maybe you could first explain how this can be taken as a credible source?
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:11 PM
 
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Obama has lack of judgment, lack of experience, smooth talker without saying much, great in holding a speech and many people can learn from him, but for the rest not qualified to be the next president!

McCain/Palin '08! Experience, trust, judgment skills and have proven themself!
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:18 PM
 
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Of course we who have a mind of our own, educated and investigate/research the FACTS for ourselves all know that NONE of these things are true about the Senator. However, there are those people who seem to post here (3000 posts in 3 months by one person alone) say such terrible things about the Senator, it makes me believe that they are either:

1. On the McCain campaign payroll.
2. Hate/Fear mongerers
3. Trying to solicit the "retard" vote (people like the lady that McCain snatched the mic from when she said "Obama....is an Arab" and a visibly disgusted McCain says "No ma'am....that is NOT true.....that is NOT true")
4. Silly individuals who are think of themselves as online "Karl Rove" and could help decide the outcome of the election by constantly posting/saying outrageous things without ANY factual evidence to support it.
5. They are just ignorant themselves.
6. Just would not like to see a black (half black) president.

We all know who these people are. They make these outlandish posts, then disappear when other post to engage them in debate/conversations of actual facts. Those who dont disappear, more often than not, are afraid of having intellectual debate as they just resort to things like "Oh, you spelled xxxx word wrong, you must be liberal" or "You pretend to be Republican but ....." or "I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend that 30 years ago......".

This being the last weekend before the Presidential election, we can expect these goofballs to really up the stupidity of their posts all in hopes of trying to convince people to vote their way.

Please please please, do your research and learn about the candidates yourself from reliable sources before you make your decision.

Thank you.

I disagree with everything said for the most part, but I admire that you put together a well thought out post and your entitled to your opinions.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:19 PM
 
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This is a country built on capitalism.

Implement welfare programs in an attempt to provide social justice and the American people capitalize on it and take advantage. You will see a dramatic decrease in AGI after deductions because the American people will capitalize on welfare and make it as ineffective as it was the previous times. It's either all socialism or nothing. You can't let poor people capitalize on rich people because poor people don't create jobs.

You distribute money from the rich to the poor increasing the income of the poor decreasing the income of the rich. You make it less desirable for the rich person to want to start a business or invest in that business. Middle class and poor don't create jobs or start businesses.

Just some thoughts.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Beautiful East TN!!
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I am voting for McCain as well, I do not believe Obama is a Muslim, Marxist, communist, terrorist, or Arab. But for the Socialist..well...still not sure on if the definition fits perfectly, but it is close. As for Racist, yes, I am sorry, I believe he is. He is very much against wealthy white people. He and Michelle have said everything but the exact words. I think Michelle is more so racist than Barrack, but I do believe it is there.
Is that why I am not voting for him? No, that is a stupid, sheepish reason to decide a vote. I am voting for McCain/Palin because of the issues and the fact that I do not want to see a one party, White house, and Congress. That is just to dangerous in this place and time in our country to have one party control. We must have a much chance for bi-partisin policies and resolutions as possible right now. Checks and balances have proven so important in a lot of the recent past issues. My vote is for that reason.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:22 PM
 
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Please please please, do your research and learn about the candidates yourself from reliable sources before you make your decision.

Thank you.
...a cry in the wilderness...

The good news is, the people you're talking about get their talking points from emails and radio and television friends, so they're pretty predictable. They dont want to know the facts, they dont want to research, they're past caring. They like to be afraid and angry, angry and afraid. I dont think they can change.

It's all right.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:26 PM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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My whole point is just to urge people to conduct their own research into the two candidates from credible sources. Dont rely on mass e-mails, posts by strangers in forums, or anything similar.

Take a look #1 at the candidates education, their experience, their record, their background, their interests and THEN decide. Dont cast your vote for Obama because DaBeez said he's smarter than McCain or vote for McCain because Sanrene said Obama will send money to africa and give blacks reparation money.

Just make an informed decision when you cast your ballot. Thats all I am saying. Dont let chatrooms or forums influence you.
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