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Confidence in oneself is essential to be a leader. I have not heard a boastful word out of the man. He says do not count your chickens before they hatch, just vote. Vote to change your own way of life, vote to sign on to the hard work that will be required to make this country strong and vibrant again. John McCain's statements of being tested and ready are his ways of showing leadership, Baracks statements of havng a different policy direction and being ready to do the work with us all are his ways of showing leadership. Both men love the country, both men deserve respect, and one man will win the responsibility to lead this nation through the next four years.
Haven't finished reading the entire thread, but had to wade through dozens of inane posts to finally find a sane reply. Well spoken, Janeann.
Whatever happened to voting for a platform, for ideals, for overall direction to the left or the right? Why so much invested in personality? And why the need to visciously attack the person you don't agree with? Am I one of the few adults here and have stumbled onto a political forum with adolescents?
I respect Obama for rising from a humble and adverse homelife and how he bettered himself with education, with community service, with his ability to run a well organized campaign.
I respect McCain for his service to his country, for his ability to not only survive but thrive in a prisoner of war experience that would have done most of us in completely, for his ability to work in the senate in a non partisan way at times and to go against the party line when he saw fit.
However, I vote for McCain because I believe that the change this country needs is a fine tuning and a return to more conservative, if not libertarian ideals. Is he my prime candidate to do this? No, I feel he is still too centrist for what would really help this country. I have voted for conservative candidates in vain, I must say, as no one has really taken office and tackled the huge vast blundering bureacracy that is our federal government and trimmed it down. Will he be what I really want? No, but he is better than the alternative.
I will not vote against Obama because of anything personal. I don't think he is qualified, don't think he has been tested, but that really is not why I won't vote for him. I wouldn't vote for Biden or Hilary if they were at the top of the ticket. And not for any personal things that might come to mind, they both seem like good people and would not be where they are today without smarts and leadership qualities.
However, the democratic party is too liberal for me. The love of big government and inherent love to tax and spend that typifies the democratic party are why I will not vote for them. It is not in this country's best interest in my opinion.
I don't think the original post has any revelance to either candidate. It is the Word of God, but don't see that it is applicable. All of us have pride that we need to deal with, I am sure that both Obama and McCain have a measure of humility and both have areas of pride for which they need to repent, simply because they are both human and it is a weakness in the human nature. But I don't see it is the hallmark of either one of them.
Please, people, vote for platform and ideals. If you are liberal, so be it. But be honest and vote for the platform and take the vicious personal attack for the opposition out of the equation, now that it is time to get down and vote. Same goes to you fellow conservatives on my side of the aisle.
May God's will be done, may his Kingdom come in this election process.
Haven't finished reading the entire thread, but had to wade through dozens of inane posts to finally find a sane reply. Well spoken, Janeann.
Whatever happened to voting for a platform, for ideals, for overall direction to the left or the right? Why so much invested in personality? And why the need to visciously attack the person you don't agree with? Am I one of the few adults here and have stumbled onto a political forum with adolescents?
I respect Obama for rising from a humble and adverse homelife and how he bettered himself with education, with community service, with his ability to run a well organized campaign.
I respect McCain for his service to his country, for his ability to not only survive but thrive in a prisoner of war experience that would have done most of us in completely, for his ability to work in the senate in a non partisan way at times and to go against the party line when he saw fit.
However, I vote for McCain because I believe that the change this country needs is a fine tuning and a return to more conservative, if not libertarian ideals. Is he my prime candidate to do this? No, I feel he is still too centrist for what would really help this country. I have voted for conservative candidates in vain, I must say, as no one has really taken office and tackled the huge vast blundering bureacracy that is our federal government and trimmed it down. Will he be what I really want? No, but he is better than the alternative.
I will not vote against Obama because of anything personal. I don't think he is qualified, don't think he has been tested, but that really is not why I won't vote for him. I wouldn't vote for Biden or Hilary if they were at the top of the ticket. And not for any personal things that might come to mind, they both seem like good people and would not be where they are today without smarts and leadership qualities.
However, the democratic party is too liberal for me. The love of big government and inherent love to tax and spend that typifies the democratic party are why I will not vote for them. It is not in this country's best interest in my opinion.
I don't think the original post has any revelance to either candidate. It is the Word of God, but don't see that it is applicable. All of us have pride that we need to deal with, I am sure that both Obama and McCain have a measure of humility and both have areas of pride for which they need to repent, simply because they are both human and it is a weakness in the human nature. But I don't see it is the hallmark of either one of them.
Please, people, vote for platform and ideals. If you are liberal, so be it. But be honest and vote for the platform and take the vicious personal attack for the opposition out of the equation, now that it is time to get down and vote. Same goes to you fellow conservatives on my side of the aisle.
May God's will be done, may his Kingdom come in this election process.
The love of big government? Hmmm. Under the Republicans, we have the biggest government since the Depression. And the worst deficit in our history. And McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time. Where do you get the idea that McCain is for smaller government and less spending?
As for who's more qualified: Just look at the campaigns. McCain's is full of hate and fear-mongering. Obama focuses on the issues.
As for God: God has nothing to do with American elections.
There is more than one thread on here discussing the election in the context of religion and it is relevant. If you don't like it, skip the thread. Or try that "tolerance" you are always spouting.
I personally can't help but wonder what the american people are thinking. If it's not legal for someone to run for president who is not an american citizen, why is it that Obama refuses to show that he is a citizen of america?? I
Not that wikipedia is 100% accurate in their information but I thought this was very interesting when I looked it up.
They mention presidential candidates who were born outside the US and guess whose name doesn't come up and whose does? Odd.
US presidential candidates born outside the US
"The constitutional wording has left doubts about whether those born on foreign soil are on an equal footing with those whose birth occurred inside the country's borders, and whether they have the same rights."[2] Though every president and vice president to date (as of 2008) has either been a citizen at the adoption of the Constitution, or else born in a U.S. state or Washington D.C.,[3] a number of presidential candidates have been born elsewhere.[4]
Barry Goldwater, who ran as the Republican party nominee in 1964, was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory. However, although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully organized and incorporated territory of the United States.[5]
George Romney, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 1968, was born in Mexico to U.S. parents. Romney’s grandfather emigrated to Mexico in 1886 with his three wives and children after Utah outlawed polygamy. Romney's parents retained their U.S. citizenship and returned to the United States in 1912. Romney was 32 years old when he arrived in Michigan.
Lowell Weicker, the former Connecticut Senator, Representative, and Governor, entered the race for the Republican party nomination of 1980 but dropped out before voting in the primaries began. He was born in Paris, France and acquired his citizenship at birth through his parents. His father was an executive for E. R. Squibb & Sons and his mother was the Indian-born daughter of a British general.[6]
John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and is the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at the Coco Solo U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Although the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States,[7] federal law states: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."[8] The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born — albeit with retroactive effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.[9]
The mere fact of Constitutional ineligibility has not deterred some minor parties from nominating candidates for President who could not possibly serve in the office. For example, although some states have blocked ballot access for such candidates, the Socialist Workers Party nonetheless successfully placed its candidate, Nicaraguan-born RĂ³ger Calero, on the ballot in Mississippi in 2004. [10
The love of big government? Hmmm. Under the Republicans, we have the biggest government since the Depression. And the worst deficit in our history. And McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time. Where do you get the idea that McCain is for smaller government and less spending?
As for who's more qualified: Just look at the campaigns. McCain's is full of hate and fear-mongering. Obama focuses on the issues.
As for God: God has nothing to do with American elections.
Did you not read the post? I have voted for conservatives and have been disappointed that they haven't governed conservatively. I don't believe McCain is what I want either, too centrist. I really am more libertarian when it comes to the federal government, but don't see the libertarian party as a viable alternative at the present time.
Yes, the current Republican president COUPLED WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS has come up with the most bloated government in years. So, what would you have me do, vote for the most liberal to the left candidate the democrats have offered since McGovern? Not a personal attack, just a plain observation of positions.
How is pointing out that the opposition is far left to the point of leaning toward socialism equated with hate and fear mongering? Calling McCain and his campaign hate filled and fear mongering is doing the same yourself.
Sorry, don't see Obama as qualified. Hilary or Biden would be more qualified in my thinking, but it is the platform and direction that I am voting both for and against.
So, the platform I would like to see is not available to me in this election, therefore I am voting against a far left platform and am voting for one more center/right when I would prefer one more solidly right.
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There is more than one thread on here discussing the election in the context of religion and it is relevant. If you don't like it, skip the thread. Or try that "tolerance" you are always spouting.
