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Old 11-03-2008, 03:21 PM
 
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I think what he's trying to say is that the fix is in. Remember Florida 2000? He's saying Obama's lead in the polls is not big enough to overcome the vote count shenanigans planned by the Florida GOP.
Yes, I think the only way they can win Florida is to cheat AGAIN...
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:26 PM
 
Location: In the sunshine on a ship with a plank
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This is interesting. Only 1000 people showed up in Tampa? WOW.
I was there- and it was a pitifully small crowd.

I'm spending today and tonight in Tampa- it's definitely an Obama town.

I saw three planes pulling banners with the big O logo that say Vote Obama

Obama yard signs and banners everywhere- several businesses are flying O logo flags. Others have advertised Obama parties. It's very cool.


It's tremendous! This election process has been draining and stressful- I'm sitting in the middle of Obama country here and I love it!
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm sitting in the middle of Obama country here and I love it!
You're in Venezuela?
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think what he's trying to say is that the fix is in. Remember Florida 2000? He's saying Obama's lead in the polls is not big enough to overcome the vote count shenanigans planned by the Florida GOP.
Rasmussen


If the Presidential Election were held today, would you vote for Republican John McCain, Democrat Barack Obama, Libertarian Bob Barr, Independent Ralph Nader or Green Party Candidate Cynthia Ann McKinney?

11/2 10/26 10/19 10/12 10/5 9/28 9/21 9/14 9/7
McCain 50% 47% 49% 46% 45% 47% 51% 49% 48%
Obama 49% 51% 48% 51% 52% 47% 46% 44% 48%
Barr 0% 0% 0% 1% 0% 0% 0% 2% 0%
Nader 0% 0% 1% 0% 1% 1% 0% 2% 2%
McKinney 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Not sure 1% 1% 2% 2% 2% 5% 3% 3% 2%

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...mussenpoll.pdf
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Rasmussen


If the Presidential Election were held today, would you vote for Republican John McCain, Democrat Barack Obama, Libertarian Bob Barr, Independent Ralph Nader or Green Party Candidate Cynthia Ann McKinney?

11/2 10/26 10/19 10/12 10/5 9/28 9/21 9/14 9/7
McCain 50% 47% 49% 46% 45% 47% 51% 49% 48%
Obama 49% 51% 48% 51% 52% 47% 46% 44% 48%
Barr 0% 0% 0% 1% 0% 0% 0% 2% 0%
Nader 0% 0% 1% 0% 1% 1% 0% 2% 2%
McKinney 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Not sure 1% 1% 2% 2% 2% 5% 3% 3% 2%

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...mussenpoll.pdf
I guess that was a thread killer haha
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Or concert tickets like Obama was doing. Wait, he had one yesterday and had to bribe people to show up...

This Sunday, November 2nd, please join Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, and special guest Bruce Springsteen in Cleveland, where they will talk about Barack's vision for creating the kind of change we need.
80,000 people showed up. And 80,000 showing up for Barack Obama is a small crowd. He draws more than this without musicians.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I was there- and it was a pitifully small crowd.

I'm spending today and tonight in Tampa- it's definitely an Obama town.

I saw three planes pulling banners with the big O logo that say Vote Obama

Obama yard signs and banners everywhere- several businesses are flying O logo flags. Others have advertised Obama parties. It's very cool.


It's tremendous! This election process has been draining and stressful- I'm sitting in the middle of Obama country here and I love it!

Awesome!
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:56 PM
 
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I was there- and it was a pitifully small crowd.

I'm spending today and tonight in Tampa- it's definitely an Obama town.

I saw three planes pulling banners with the big O logo that say Vote Obama

Obama yard signs and banners everywhere- several businesses are flying O logo flags. Others have advertised Obama parties. It's very cool.


It's tremendous! This election process has been draining and stressful- I'm sitting in the middle of Obama country here and I love it!
Is it the same over in St Pete? IIRC, St Pete has a lot of older folks, not so sure if Tampa does. Thanks!
s/Mike
XOXOX
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:50 PM
 
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Yes, all that and the fact that Gallup did that 1948 poll by telephone, when a lot of people did NOT have a phone at the time. Pundits surmise this was a factor; the slightly better off GOP types had phones, the worker bee DEMs did not.

This year, there is talk of 'cell phone gap' in that tons of young people, who are mostly Obama fans, only have cell phones, but the pollsters only call people with traditional land-line phones (the not so young folks). Thus the pollsters are NOT calling quite so many young people, giving rise to a theory that Obama actually has a bigger lead than the polls are showing. We'll know in 36 hours.
FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right: The Cellphone Effect, Continued
. He suggested to me that it was much easier to get the cooperation of cellphone users on the weekend than during the week. How come? Because most cellphone plans include free weekend minutes. Conversely, one might expect that young people are particularly difficult to reach on their landlines over the weekend, since they tend to be away from home more (especially on a weekend when some nontrivial number of them are out volunteering for Obama). So, while I haven't tried to verify this, it wouldn't surprise me if the "cellphone gap" expands over the weekend, and contracts during the week.
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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I guess that was a thread killer haha
Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/florida/election_2008_florida_presidential_election - broken link)
Fifty-five percent (55%) of those who have already voted cast their ballots for Obama, 44% for McCain. Nationwide, Rasmussen Reports polling suggests as many as 37% of voters may cast their ballot before tomorrow.
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