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Old 11-06-2008, 05:46 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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We will be the highest taxed nation. He will keep thowing money at problems, fixing nothing. I see us swimming against the tide for the next four years. Poor tired and weary.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:46 PM
 
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unemployment was never low under Bush. Where have you been for the past 8 years? There was and still is massive joblessness under Bush. Perception is important but not more important than reality, are you kidding me?
Wow, drinking that Obama/Clinton Koolaid?
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:46 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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You stated the number one criteria, as to why I have such a problem with liberals in general......it is all about feelings....just like you eluded to over and over in this post!! What in Obama's resume, based on hard facts leads you to this conclusion? "I have a feeling" does not cut it. Obama might very well turn out to be good, but one thing we already know for 100% fact, is all his promises will not be met. In fact, not even 5% of them! Yet the average voter belived him, those of us who based our vote on hsitory and facts saw right through the constant speeches about a utopia that we know does not exist.
Well feelings and emotion are important, if we all didn't have a "feeling" about Obama despite his lack of experience as a commander in chief then he wouldn't be elected our president. We have faith in him. It's about the power of hope and desire for change. We can do and be anything that we want and it's a fact! Just look at what we are witnessing!
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:46 PM
 
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Any time he needs money--he will tell his wife to buy another ugly dress and parade around in front of the MSM until they are sufficintly bamboozeled
this post made no sense at all
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:46 PM
 
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will you be shocked if the unemployment rate is reduced? I think that it can be done. Obama has so many good ideas, ideas such as tax cuts for companies that don't export jobs overseas, building and improving our infrastructure...
Time will tell. I'm one who has to see it before I believe it. And I want my over $1000 tax refund. In my hand. Then I'll be glad. And my free health care too so I can stop paying monthly premiums.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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You stated the number one criteria, as to why I have such a problem with liberals in general......it is all about feelings....just like you eluded to over and over in this post!! What in Obama's resume, based on hard facts leads you to this conclusion? "I have a feeling" does not cut it. Obama might very well turn out to be good, but one thing we already know for 100% fact, is all his promises will not be met. In fact, not even 5% of them! Yet the average voter belived him, those of us who based our vote on hsitory and facts saw right through the constant speeches about a utopia that we know does not exist.
I suppose you also saw through his ability to be elected.....
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:49 PM
 
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Here's some perspective:


Carter: Prime Interest rate, 21%. Inflation, 13.5%. Unemployment, 7%. The so-called “Misery Index,” which Carter used to great effect in his 1976 campaign to win election, 20.5%.

Reagan’s last year: Prime Interest rate, 11%. Inflation, 4.1%. Unemployment, 5.5%. Misery Index, 9.6%.

Bush today: Prime Interest rate, 7.2%. Inflation, 4.8%. Unemployment, 6.1%. Misery Index, 10.9%.
Um, the prime interest rate is no where near 7.2% Prime Rate - Prime Interest Rate

LIBOR - 1 Yr2.969%-0.136%LIBOR - 6 Mo2.824%-0.145%LIBOR - 3 Mo2.510%0.004%LIBOR - 1 Mo1.960%0.004%Treasury - 30 Yr4.20%-0.13%Treasury - 10 Yr3.81%-0.15%Fed Prime Rate4.00%0.00%
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:49 PM
 
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will you be shocked if the unemployment rate is reduced? I think that it can be done. Obama has so many good ideas, ideas such as tax cuts for companies that don't export jobs overseas, building and improving our infrastructure...
And yes I know you're certain everything is soon going to be perfect. We just must wait until January before the full perfection is attained. You can *feel* it.

That's what I mean about perception is more important than reality.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:52 PM
 
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Wow, drinking that Obama/Clinton Koolaid?
Yes you should have some, its really good
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Over There
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It depends on what you're asking. Unemployment this month is at 6.1% which is a bit higher than it was most of the past 8 years.
Not this

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I think to some people that *feels* like massive unemployment. When Obama is in office, their perceptions may change and things will *feel* different.
Ok so if I am unemployed right now and can not buy food for my children to eat, somehow in Jan I won't feel the same feelings as I do right now? Does that really make sense to you? I will still have no job and my kids will still be hungry, they only difference is that Obama is sleeping in the lap of luxery instead of Bush.

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They already admit that the moment Obama won there was this odd energy they were feeling, suddenly everything went from really bad to really great. He's not even in office yet -- but it's there, they just feel everything is right now.
Baby energy don't pay the bills, energy don't feed the kids, energy don't keep a roof over your head. Energy fade fast. Keep dreaming cause your gonna need it.
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