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Old 11-07-2008, 09:29 PM
 
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1. The GOP has to decide what it stands for, or wants to stand for, and really stick to it. This will NOT be easy, given steps 2 and 3.

2. The GOP has to make a list of "who is here in the tent with us" (factions) and what do they bring to our core values as set out in item one. If they aren't a fit, out they go. Who stays or who goes will depend on what a faction is all about.

3. People need to get a copy of Bill Bradley's great book, The New American Way, as it contains an excellent discussion of at least 12 different wings or factions within the GOP. I was surprised at that number, but Bradley delineates these nicely, and it is a very disparate cast of actors. Time and space won't allow me to elaborate on these 12 factions, but each has its own set of ideas and priorities, and they don't always compliment each other or work in unison.

EDIT: Much of the material on the website listed in the OP is tactical, the "how to" part of running a campaign, but first the party has to decide WHAT they are all about, i.e., what the GOP really STANDS for, not how does the GOP run for office.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:40 PM
 
Location: DC area
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I would go one step further and closer to Plato's critique of Democracy and suggest we need to look at the foundations of our government at large as well. Right now we have spent the past several years at least living under an imperial Presidency that includes Clinton as well. Party politics are just one more of the lesser manifestations of a fractured greater system of political pageantry. Or so I heard down at the feed store anyway.
Oh I'd agree with you. However, the moment you started prodding people to take much of a look at the foundations and that then led to any discussion on what it took to really fix it people would run screaming away from the entire thing because we have the 'no touchy' mentality.

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1. The GOP has to decide what it stands for, or wants to stand for, and really stick to it. This will NOT be easy, given steps 2 and 3.

*snip*
Exactly my point. Well said and better than I did.

Until you make the decision and pick a path you're not going to get anywhere. It is like creating a military battle plan without knowing which troops are going to join you on the battlefield.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:47 PM
 
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That site is so hilarious!!!

Just the thought of conservatives trying to rally the Republican party is so funny that I can't stop laughing!!!

I mean - really - where are you going to get enough bone-heads to possibly buy into the Republican platform??? Most Americans wouldn't trust a Republican to clean their toilets - let alone run the country ever again!!

So you think most Americans are democrats? Republican leaders have run our country many more years than democrats have, and most people identify themselves as conservative for good reasons.
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:39 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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It does not matter whether the GOP survives as such: if the democrats were to rule alone, after a relatively short time it would break into at least two pieces, it's the nature of the US system, and there's a reason for it.

The US needs a party that defends the best of US traditions, a conservative party minus the evango-fascists, as Mike from back east puts it, minus the money-changers at the temple as I prefer to put it, minus the oilmen and the money-changers at the bank (the so-called neocons).

A party that focuses on sound economic policy, efficient administration, and good institutions that balance individual responsibility, freedom and the awarding of talent with equal opportunity.

A party that is capable of effectively communicating the best of US traditions to everyone in the global village so that these values become an integral part of the new world fabric.

Otherwise, global feudalism, socialism with broken teeth and lice in your hair, a globalism of the pharaohs and petty lords.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:38 AM
 
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First you have to get rid of all the greedy ,stuffed shirts and bring back some commom sense people
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:43 AM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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Of course you realize that this means dumping 75% of incumbent Republicans.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:01 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Of course you realize that this means dumping 75% of incumbent Republicans.
Well these last elections took care of a portion of that, hopefully good riddance to the rest in the 2010 elections.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Check out the new site, take action! Let's rebuild the party with the conservative leadership it deserves!!!!

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I hope you do rebuild it.This was your last attempt at it.

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Old 11-08-2008, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Well these last elections took care of a portion of that, hopefully good riddance to the rest in the 2010 elections.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:13 AM
 
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Like a major remodel of a building, step #1 is to gut the building.

For the Republican party, this would mean all of the extreme right wingnut thinkers need to cleaned out.
What is an extreme right wing thinker? Could you give a few examples as to what that would consist of?
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