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Old 11-30-2008, 05:19 PM
 
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I would say, yes, it would matter. Nobody likes a liar and a guy that needs to cover up his past with conspiracies. He'd be another Nixon. The fact that it would invalidate his presidency and would do untold damage to the country would also almost automatically necessitate his removal from any political office and also possibly demand a prison term.
Add to that the legal costs, the fraudulent use of campaign contributions, he'd be sued into abject poverty. His brother in that shack in Kenya may end up living better than him.
But who would be president? Hillary would have had the nomination and may have beat McCain. But there are those who say she knows the truth about Obama's birth, which explains the way she's pretty much written her own ticket into Obama's cabinet.
If he goes down, she goes down with him. Biden might get to be president, but if Obama ran on fraud, then McCain would have won had it been exposed before the election so that possibly nullifies the outcome. Could we get a president by default or having one party be disqalified? Would we have to have another election entirely? Would Bush be kept on until a new special election happens, say in the spring?
Maybe we could disqualify BOTH major parties if it could be proven Obama's Kenyan birth was known by both and then have the next highest vote getting third party candidate be elected president. That would be truly great.

 
Old 11-30-2008, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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They probably couldn't find a decent manger in Hawaii since the tourists took over and ruined everything. That would explain it.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 05:28 PM
 
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It does not really matter if Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya or Mars, though it would be very interesting to know what his vault birth certificate says. However, Obama is willing to hire three law firms and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight the Court and Justice System to stop the Court from forcing him to show it.

The real issue is that Obama's father held foreign citizenship at the time of Obama's birth. This means that Obama is not a "natural born citizen" and therefore is ineligible to be President of the United States; even if he was born in Hawaii.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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It does not really matter if Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya or Mars, though it would be very interesting to know what his vault birth certificate says. However, Obama is willing to hire three law firms and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight the Court and Justice System to stop the Court from forcing him to show it.

The real issue is that Obama's father held foreign citizenship at the time of Obama's birth. This means that Obama is not a "natural born citizen" and therefore is ineligible to be President of the United States; even if he was born in Hawaii.
His Mother was from Kansas. This makes him an American Citizen if his father was only beamed down specifically for the conception and she gave birth at the North Pole in Santa's Workshop on a polar bear skin.

Somebody run outside and look. Is there a full moon tonight or something?
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:15 PM
 
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Yes, it would matter to me. No, I would expect him to not serve as President of the United States.

Yes, I would be more than a little surprised.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:16 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I take great comfort from knowing that I will never meet sanrene or kooter. They will fade into memory as have others with irrational beliefs in the past. Ah, but we'll always have Kenya.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:24 PM
 
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His Mother was from Kansas. This makes him an American Citizen if his father was only beamed down specifically for the conception and she gave birth at the North Pole in Santa's Workshop on a polar bear skin.

Somebody run outside and look. Is there a full moon tonight or something?
Not true. Just being a "citizen" is not the same as being a "natural born citizen', which is a requirement to be POTUS.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:27 PM
 
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His Mother was from Kansas. This makes him an American Citizen if his father was only beamed down specifically for the conception and she gave birth at the North Pole in Santa's Workshop on a polar bear skin.

Somebody run outside and look. Is there a full moon tonight or something?

You are incorrect. There is a difference between citizen and natural born citizen. Research before you post.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Alvarado, TX
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Amazing. A poster asks a question, apparently in honesty. It takes four pages, 40 replies to get a decent answer from just one poster to answer the question. In the meantime, there is hyperventilating going on ad nauseum, accusations flying right and left, words of ill will and insanity being tossed around. And some folks ask why intelligence is so sorely lacking here, and in the world. Indeed. Just an opinion, folks, just an opinion. That's my statement, and I'll stand by it. If you don't like it, if you don't agree with it, tough snot, bug off.
 
Old 11-30-2008, 06:31 PM
 
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Leo Donofrio will be on http://www.plainsradio.com at 10pm central time tonight if you're interested. (Click on on "Listen Live")

Leo Donofrio's lawsuit is the one to be reviewed by the Supreme Court justices and it does not even address "where" Obama was born, but instead that Obama cannot possibly have "natural born citizen" status as defined by the Constitution...a requirement to hold the office of President of the United States.
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