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Old 05-02-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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the reason barry is such a great speaker.

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Old 05-02-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Southeast
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Supporting George Bush often had little to do with him personally. It often had to do with the hideous alternatives.
Hit the nail on the head here..
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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the reason barry is such a great speaker.
So you're saying Bush never used one of these?
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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if he did, he didn't know how to operate it. either that or his interns were comedians.

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So you're saying Bush never used one of these?
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:12 AM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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Ooh another liberal making an unfounded accusation and then creating criticizism..

Who claimed he was an effective speaker?

Unlike Democrats, I prefer to research facts, not just vote on someone ability to "speak"..
Ohhh - another mindless, reflexive response against all things liberal..

He did post facts - that you ingored them is not his fault...

He said that Bush scared us into believing that Iraq was obtaining nuclear weapons. and that is a fact...

Bush explicitly warned us over and over that Saddam was working to build nukes. He implicitly warned us that Al Queda would get them by painting a picture of cooperation between Saddam and Al Queda...

Ohhh - don't you just hate those pesky 'facts' that you don't like which shoot down your position - and then you demand that people dig up more facts???

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Old 05-02-2009, 12:17 PM
 
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Ohhh - another mindless, reflexive response against all things liberal..

He did post facts - that you ingored them is not his fault...

He said that Bush scared us into believing that Iraq was obtaining nuclear weapons. and that is a fact...

Bush explicitly warned us over and over that Saddam was working to build nukes. He implicitly warned us that Al Queda would get them by painting a picture of cooperation between Saddam and Al Queda...

Ohhh - don't you just hate those pesky 'facts' that you don't like which shoot down your position - and then you demand that people dig up more facts???

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Oddly enough, the very same ones you listed were used by Clinton.. Care to try again? Topic is Bush and his ability to speak "effective".. NOTHING you've said even discuss the topic..
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Old 05-02-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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Supporting George Bush often had little to do with him personally. It often had to do with the hideous alternatives.
Absolutely, I mean, Bush, or Gore, that choice was almost as bad as Obama or McCain.. Either way, america got screwed.
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Old 05-02-2009, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Ooh another liberal making an unfounded accusation and then creating criticizism..

Who claimed he was an effective speaker?

Unlike Democrats, I prefer to research facts, not just vote on someone ability to "speak"..
Are you kidding me with this post? Asking the president of the greatest country to be an effective speaker is now all of sudden asking to much? I mean grant it this minor requirement was probably a huge challenge for bush but sheeesh some of your rhetoric is simply asinine.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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I would suggest that there were two Bushes, the Bush of 2000 spoke in terms of a populist moderate conservative, a likable guy, from a likable family. His views were conservative but the skewed to the middle and were coached in a style that were straight forward and seemingly with out averse.

The George Bush of 2004, was a fear mongering, swaggering, No Nothing who played on the fears of a still traumatized nation.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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Are you kidding me with this post? Asking the president of the greatest country to be an effective speaker is now all of sudden asking to much? I mean grant it this minor requirement was probably a huge challenge for bush but sheeesh some of your rhetoric is simply asinine.
Not what I said, but the irony in Democrats ONLY voting for someone because of their effective speaking isnt lost..

Maybe thats what seperates Democrats from Republicans, Demcrats want people to be able to listen to the speakers tone of their voice, Republicans want to hear whats actually being said..
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