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Old 06-27-2009, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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He had the courage of his convictions to stand up to the dems/libs to keep this country safe from another 9/11-style attack.

His policies on the War on Terror have done just that.

In the face of the defeatist behavior from the dems/libs, he did the right thing by keeping troops in Iraq until the conditions on the ground warranted a phased withdrawal.
He did no such thing.He made us less safe if anything. He broke down the basics of our rule of law and civility that this nation was founded on and escaped from England's grasp in the first place for and with his illegal attack of an innocent self governing nation he made it easier to spark hatred for the U.S. and allow the REAL "terrists" to use that as a recruiting tool.

If you are going to say he "kept us safe" because of no more attacks on U.S. soil during his watch,then you have to blame him FOR 9/11 because it happened on his watch.You extremists can't have it both ways.

Where do people such as yourself get that skewed way of thinking? Limbaugh perhaps?
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Liberal members who voted to send our troops to war are at fault, if they would have voted against it and actually read the bill for once it could have been stopped.

Sorry your lame excuse does not work.

Obama promised he would bring the troops home, he is a liar.
He is not bringing them home and you know it. Thus, he is at fault for at least 100 lives and many more to come thanks to his lies.

I am not going to explain socialism to you because anyone who supports Obama already knows what it is and defends it.

And yes, Obama screwed up Iran badly, he would have helped a nation of people who want freedom from the same things Obama is trying to push on us. ( That is take away all your freedoms so he can control you )

Obama and Ahmandinejad are one in the same people. They think alike, act alike and make decisions alike.

Obama count on soliders who have died under his watch has begun.

He promised from day one he would bring them home, instead the moron is sending more troops into harms way.

The Obama count has started.

Sad when he has now caused more then 100 deaths already because of his lies.
You are blaming Obama for 100 deaths? What about the 4300 deaths under Bush or the 30,000 life changing injuries to our troops under Bush? All because of his lies about going to war in Iraq.
Obama is going to bring our troops home instead of "stay the course" like Bush.

You say the Obama screwed up Iran, how? Bush did nothing to Iran for 8 years. What was Obama supposed to do in just 5 months?

And yes congress authorized the war after Bush and company lied about the reasons and told America, "you are either with us or with the terrorist". Congress did not plan or start the war, Bushco did. get your facts straight.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:49 AM
 
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Smile Invitation to overcome the fear

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I really dont care.....
Yes, Monkeywrenching, you do, and further, your cares scare you. Don't be afraid, inform yourself about the real world around you, and those fears will disappear.

It's probably very lonely behind all those defenses. Come out and join the land of the happy people that are not afraid. We won't hurt you.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Liberal members who voted to send our troops to war are at fault, if they would have voted against it and actually read the bill for once it could have been stopped.

Sorry your lame excuse does not work.

Obama promised he would bring the troops home, he is a liar.
He is not bringing them home and you know it. Thus, he is at fault for at least 100 lives and many more to come thanks to his lies.

I am not going to explain socialism to you because anyone who supports Obama already knows what it is and defends it.

And yes, Obama screwed up Iran badly, he would have helped a nation of people who want freedom from the same things Obama is trying to push on us. ( That is take away all your freedoms so he can control you )

Obama and Ahmandinejad are one in the same people. They think alike, act alike and make decisions alike.

Obama count on soliders who have died under his watch has begun.

He promised from day one he would bring them home, instead the moron is sending more troops into harms way.

The Obama count has started.

Sad when he has now caused more then 100 deaths already because of his lies.
Democratic congressmen likely did read the terms of what they were voting for, and it was full of lies. Forgive them for not being partisan and actually wanting to do something about the recent tragedies. You can't knock them for being lied to.

Obama's been president for 5 months, he still has 3.5 years to work out a withdrawl plan. He's basically trying to make the best out of this mess his predecessor caused. Saying Obama is at fault for the 100 lives lost is like saying a person who dies at the ER is the doctor's fault. Yea he was there but he had nothing to do with the crappy conditions that caused it.

No, you're not going to explain socialism because you can't, and you're like the other sheep in here who have bought into this ridiculous outdated insult campaign. When the majority of these people at the tea party socials can't explain what socialism is, there's a problem. I've explained in here and the other forum about half a dozen times how Socialism and Obama's policies are apples and oranges, and it's fallen on deaf ears. Then again I guess you can't educate those who don't want to learn.

So what if the people in Iran want freedom? Who is America to tell other countries who should win their elections? There were people in Vietnam and Iraq who wanted freedom, now they're in a worse situation than before. We're not King Midas. Besides, don't you think there are bigger fish to fry in America?

And it's rich for a conservative to criticize Obama about restricting freedoms. Get back to me when Obama suspends habeas corpus and limits free speech.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Wha Wha

He did not steal it at all or Gore would have fought it.

Now talk about stealing elections, every heard of ACORN for Obama???

Sound familiar to you?

Please do not compare crooked elections at this time, with Obama being ACORNS attorney and handing them money to operate you are now saying that it is ok for democrats and ACORN to defraud people by having one person vote 10-20 times each?

Fraud is a liberal thing. It's what libs know best.



Al Gore and John Kerry, OMG - They together would make Jimmy Carter and Hussein Obama look like the greatest of all time.
Even if not for ACORN (which still hasn't been proven it was fraud), Obama would've won. I have enough faith in America that it wouldn't support a witch doctor, neocon, bad mother, sub-100 IQ housewife to be its VP.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:27 AM
 
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Did damn better than Obama and got screwed by the liberal media and it's brainwashed citizens that voted for change. It is a joy to hear the idiots that voted for Obama, that wish they did not and bought into a bunch of lifeless rhetoric
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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He had the courage of his convictions to stand up to the dems/libs to keep this country safe from another 9/11-style attack.
So he did it by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 or the group that claimed responsibilty?
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Omaha, NE
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I think his personality is what I will remember most. He appears to be a like-able and nice enough guy. He seemed charming and charismatic and funny. All great qualities and for all of the quirks that I enjoyed, I feel he ultimately failed as president. I think he will go on to do good things now that's he's away from the White House (a la Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush).
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Old 06-27-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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He did no such thing.He made us less safe if anything. He broke down the basics of our rule of law and civility that this nation was founded on and escaped from England's grasp in the first place for and with his illegal attack of an innocent self governing nation he made it easier to spark hatred for the U.S. and allow the REAL "terrists" to use that as a recruiting tool.
You know, you can say that til the cows come home and it still won't be true.

Do you think we were just lucky not to be attacked again? It was the programs, policies and very aggressive, offensive behavior implemented by bush that has kept the Us from another attack.

That is just a FACT you cannot escape.

Tell me about that hatred - what was the excuse before bush went to war in Iraq?

All throughout the 90's we were attacked - what spurred them on?

Recruiting tool? Yeah, until they realize that they are NO match for our military. What a brilliant strategy - bring the jihadists from around the world to Iraq and AFghanistan where they get the dream of a lifetime - fighting face to face with our boys - and then watch as they get crushed.
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Old 06-27-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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then you have to blame him FOR 9/11 because it happened on his watch.You extremists can't have it both ways.
The policies, programs and weak, pacifistic attitude and actions from the clinton admin led directly to the attack on 9/11.

Attack after attack, with no consequences for the terrorists, emboldened them - they thought the US was weak and did not have the stomach to fight them. Just listen to UBL - he said all that in his interviews and jihadists statements, starting in Somalia, where the US under clinton allowed 18 of our best to be slaughtered by the weakness and faulty decisions of politicians in DC.

That incident was key in the way UBL perceived us - and his suspicions were confirmed as throughout the decade we were attacked with little retribution.
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