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On the subject of National Healthcare, Barack Obama style ... are you telling us that even though most people are opposed to this waste of spending ... that the government ( that can't run anything efficiently ) knows better than us? Are Americans so dumb that we should trust Obama to run our lives?
Your argument is that of a fool.
Well - the government is born from the public, so technically they are 'us'..
P.s the current rate of healthcare spending (17% of GDP) will eventually bankrupt the US. Reform is not only desirable to most people but an absolute necessity.. so yes the government does know better than you.
I'm sure you are aware the $1 trillion figure represents the 10-year cost, not the yearly cost.
So we won't be spending $1 trillion dollars "now" or any given year for this proposal.
We spend 5 times that yearly cost on defense, for a bit of perspective.
and we are still spending on defense and wars, so nothing has changed there.
i believe that the majority of americans are opposed to government run health care simply because of the fact that it pulls from the private sector, so 99% of private sector health employees would be opposed to it and other americans are worried about rationing of care, illegal immigrant care, and mismanagement / scope of government intervention. our country cannot stand much more destruction of the private sector. i urge people to go to the business forum and see the charts posted on post 124 of "doomsdayers take another one to the groin". those charts paint a very clear picture of where this country is now and what is down the road if we don't change direction.
and we are still spending on defense and wars, so nothing has changed there.
Yearly cost of Iraq = $120 billion / year
1 trillion (heatlth care reform) / 10 years = $100 billion / year
Step 1 is realizing that.
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i believe that the majority of americans are opposed to government run health care simply because of the fact that it pulls from the private sector, so 99% of private sector health employees would be opposed to it and other americans are worried about rationing of care, illegal immigrant care, and mismanagement / scope of government intervention. our country cannot stand much more destruction of the private sector. i urge people to go to the business forum and see the charts posted on post 124 of "doomsdayers take another one to the groin". those charts paint a very clear picture of where this country is now and what is down the road if we don't change direction.
I believe you are seriously mistaken and misinformed, like most against health care reform.
If the government tells you that it will cost $100 billion / year ... it will really cost us $200 billion / year.
Or, if we scrap this stupid plan all together, it won't cost us anything.
Yes, the last administration was very wrong about the cost and length of their war.
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Employer-sponsored health insurance premiums have more than doubled in the last 9 years, a rate 4 times faster than cumulative wage increases.
The United States spent approximately $2.2 trillion on health care in 2007, or $7,421 per person. This comes to 16.2% of GDP, nearly twice the average of other developed nations.
You don't realize the costs, but the cost is massive if we do nothing.
You seem to think
government = the great evil
insurance companies = looking out for your best interests
Democrats oppose freedom for Iraqis. But love Obama's war in Afghanistan. When Democrats kill people ... it's OK.
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I believe you are seriously mistaken and misinformed, like most against health care reform.
Healthcare reform doesn't have to come in the shape of a Nancy Pelosi style big government ( taxpayer funded ) unsustainable entity.
Let Americans work it out for themselves. If you allow Barack and Michelle to fill up who you are, you will realize on your death bed that you wasted your life.
Well, the tax hike passed, but Bush 41 never did get what he wanted in the bill.
I have to laugh or else I'd be banging my head against the wall. It isn't just funny, it's ridiculous to say that Obama is responsible for the shape of the economy after being in office for 6 months, yet when Bill Clinton served for 8 years and left us with a balanced budget, unemployment at its lowest in 40 years, a booming economy and a $5.5 million surplus, it had nothing to do with him!
I have to laugh or else I'd be banging my head against the wall. It isn't just funny, it's ridiculous to say that Obama is responsible for the shape of the economy after being in office for 6 months, yet when Bill Clinton served for 8 years and left us with a balanced budget, unemployment at its lowest in 40 years, a booming economy and a $5.5 million surplus, it had nothing to do with him!
Too late to edit. I meant to say $5.5 trillion in this post.
I have to laugh or else I'd be banging my head against the wall. It isn't just funny, it's ridiculous to say that Obama is responsible for the shape of the economy after being in office for 6 months, yet when Bill Clinton served for 8 years and left us with a balanced budget, unemployment at its lowest in 40 years, a booming economy and a $5.5 million surplus, it had nothing to do with him!
It's sad that they will never give credit where credit is due. Remember, these are people who listen to that drug addict Rush Limbaugh. His word is "gold" to them. Just ignore their ignorance.
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