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I am coming out fighting and I intend to do all I can to get this health care bill passed.
During a time when this country is seeing double digits in unemployment, in a time when companies are closing their doors for good or out sourcing to other countries, our gvt has trillions and trillions of debt and we are worried it will cost us all more money if there was health care for all? Pleazzzzzzze!!!
When we have Americans losing their houses to defray the cost of health care, when insurance companies are not paying for all the medical costs, when Americans have to reside in other countries who will provide affordable health care, when people are dying due to lack of health care, there is something wrong.
Of the 15 million ILLEGAL immigrants in this country, how many are being provided by with health care?
I lived in a town in Arizona that the illegals figured it out. Legally, the hospital in town could not turn any person away, under law. If a illegal person went to hospital during the day, they were told to go to the Urgent Care clinics. If you go to these you have to $$$$ pay. So, they waited until after 6 p.m. closing time and they would use the ER at the hospital. How many of these people actually paid their bills? Our health care system is broken in America.
Republicans think we have the best health care system in the world, just ask John McCain. When I was growing up, I could phone my doctor and see him in a matter of days. Currently, I have no doctor. The good ones are not accepting new patients. A specialist, appointments are booked out 5 weeks. A doctor is two or three weeks wait. This is the reason Urgent Care's are in every town. Walk into one of those places, $75 to $150 to see a doctor.
If you think The United States has superior health care then why do the statistics speak differently? Close to 100,000.00 people die annually in hospitals due to staff infections, wrong medicine, etc.
The United States is the only industrialized nation that doesn't have affordable medical for all. Why? Because our politicians are bought off by the insurance companies. Insurance companies are like whores..but they are legal. Just wait when you have a major operation or illness and see how wonderful that insurance company is. I guarantee the rates will go up by 30 percent or you will be dropped.
I had a operation and after the operation my doctor told me I had to be in the hospital for five days. The insurance company representative came to the hospital and barked orders at the nurses to get me walking the halls as I had to be out of the hospital in two days. The doctor phoned the insurance company and told them I was to leave by day 5 not by day 3.
When I grew up, the doctor made house calls. Those who are my generation might remember that time. You could phone a doctor and see them in the same day and it was so affordable one didn't need insurance to pay the bill. But those were the days that the United States ranked #1 in health care...not anymore. Oh, by the way, in those days the United States ranked number one in highest life expectancy,now we rank number 35. Personally, I equate this to presciption medication.
Here are some statistics.
The World Health Organization (WHO), in 2000, ranked the U.S. health care system as the highest in cost, first in responsiveness, 37th in overall performance, and 72nd by overall level of health (among 191 member nations included in the study).[12][13] The WHO study has been criticized, in an article published in Health Affairs, for its failure to include the satisfaction ratings of the general public.[14] A 2008 report by the Commonwealth Fund ranked the United States last in the quality of health care among the 19 compared countries.[15] The U.S. has a higher infant mortality rate than all other developed countries.[nb 1][16] According to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, the United States is the "only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage" (i.e. some kind of assurance).[17][18]
I am coming out fighting and I intend to do all I can to get this health care bill passed.
During a time when this country is seeing double digits in unemployment, in a time when companies are closing their doors for good or out sourcing to other countries, our gvt has trillions and trillions of debt and we are worried it will cost us all more money if there was health care for all? Pleazzzzzzze!!!
When we have Americans losing their houses to defray the cost of health care, when insurance companies are not paying for all the medical costs, when Americans have to reside in other countries who will provide affordable health care, when people are dying due to lack of health care, there is something wrong.
Of the 15 million ILLEGAL immigrants in this country, how many are being provided by with health care?
I lived in a town in Arizona that the illegals figured it out. Legally, the hospital in town could not turn any person away, under law. If a illegal person went to hospital during the day, they were told to go to the Urgent Care clinics. If you go to these you have to $$$$ pay. So, they waited until after 6 p.m. closing time and they would use the ER at the hospital. How many of these people actually paid their bills? Our health care system is broken in America.
Republicans think we have the best health care system in the world, just ask John McCain. When I was growing up, I could phone my doctor and see him in a matter of days. Currently, I have no doctor. The good ones are not accepting new patients. A specialist, appointments are booked out 5 weeks. A doctor is two or three weeks wait. This is the reason Urgent Care's are in every town. Walk into one of those places, $75 to $150 to see a doctor.
If you think The United States has superior health care then why do the statistics speak differently? Close to 100,000.00 people die annually in hospitals due to staff infections, wrong medicine, etc.
The United States is the only industrialized nation that doesn't have affordable medical for all. Why? Because our politicians are bought off by the insurance companies. Insurance companies are like whores..but they are legal. Just wait when you have a major operation or illness and see how wonderful that insurance company is. I guarantee the rates will go up by 30 percent or you will be dropped.
I had a operation and after the operation my doctor told me I had to be in the hospital for five days. The insurance company representative came to the hospital and barked orders at the nurses to get me walking the halls as I had to be out of the hospital in two days. The doctor phoned the insurance company and told them I was to leave by day 5 not by day 3.
When I grew up, the doctor made house calls. Those who are my generation might remember that time. You could phone a doctor and see them in the same day and it was so affordable one didn't need insurance to pay the bill. But those were the days that the United States ranked #1 in health care...not anymore. Oh, by the way, in those days the United States ranked number one in highest life expectancy,now we rank number 35. Personally, I equate this to presciption medication.
Here are some statistics.
The World Health Organization (WHO), in 2000, ranked the U.S. health care system as the highest in cost, first in responsiveness, 37th in overall performance, and 72nd by overall level of health (among 191 member nations included in the study).[12][13] The WHO study has been criticized, in an article published in Health Affairs, for its failure to include the satisfaction ratings of the general public.[14] A 2008 report by the Commonwealth Fund ranked the United States last in the quality of health care among the 19 compared countries.[15] The U.S. has a higher infant mortality rate than all other developed countries.[nb 1][16] According to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, the United States is the "only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage" (i.e. some kind of assurance).[17][18]
Just another ACORN worker.........Lies, Lies and more Lies....
How about you refute some of these lies and offer your own ideas. Simply dismissing another poster's statements as lies because you do not agree with them does nothing to further intelligent debate, and makes you look like the shill with nothing of substance to say. Specifically what has this poster stated that is an outright lie?
That being said it is clear that 'smilinpretty' simply cut and past his or her post and might come across as a most plausible poster if he or she had not, as the 'links' that are meant for reference go nowhere. A quick search though found that much of the information came from the Wiki on US healthcare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_..._United_States
Trust me...
You want out of that hospital with it's assorted germs as soon as possible.
You want to get walking to prevent complications.
Tort reform, all we need!
How about you refute some of these lies and offer your own ideas. Simply dismissing another poster's statements as lies because you do not agree with them does nothing to further intelligent debate, and makes you look like the shill with nothing of substance to say.
Refuting the points???
How about the OP looks at the bill being passed and tell us how that will improver our health care? Simply saying we are ranked 37 does not explain to anyone what this bill will do to fix that.
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During a time when this country is seeing double digits in unemployment, in a time when companies are closing their doors for good or out sourcing to other countries, our gvt has trillions and trillions of debt and we are worried it will cost us all more money if there was health care for all? Pleazzzzzzze!!!
What is hard to grasp about this concept? So you are mad as hell and we are trillions in debt and you want to add another trillion?
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The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report late Monday estimating the cost of a leading healthcare reform proposal at more than $1 trillion, but that figure looked only at a portion of the bill.
The analysis falls just within the most expensive cost scenario sketched out by Democratic leaders in recent days, but does not include an estimate for a highly contentious government-run insurance plan that would compete with private insurers.
Republicans think we have the best health care system in the world, just ask John McCain. When I was growing up, I could phone my doctor and see him in a matter of days. Currently, I have no doctor. The good ones are not accepting new patients. A specialist, appointments are booked out 5 weeks. A doctor is two or three weeks wait. This is the reason Urgent Care's are in every town. Walk into one of those places, $75 to $150 to see a doctor.
You do realize that medicare does not pay full price for the services rendered by the doctor don't you? But if you like this bill then you think that having a government option (that would also set the prices they pay for services) will help attract new doctors?
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A 2003 survey of hospital administrators conducted in Canada, the U.S., and three other countries found dissatisfaction with both the U.S. and Canadian systems. For example, 21% of Canadian hospital administrators, but less than 1% of American administrators, said that it would take over three weeks to do a biopsy for possible breast cancer on a 50-year-old woman; 50% of Canadian administrators versus none of their American counterparts said that it would take over six months for a 65-year-old to undergo a routine hip replacement surgery. However, U.S. administrators were the most negative about their country's health care system. Hospital executives in all five countries expressed concerns about staffing shortages and emergency department waiting times and quality.
If you think The United States has superior health care then why do the statistics speak differently? Close to 100,000.00 people die annually in hospitals due to staff infections, wrong medicine, etc.
Where are your facts to back up our hospital mortality rate VS. say any other country? YOu in all this ranting have failed to convince anyone what this bill will to do to change the "statistic's" you brought up.
ryneone - at least you posted some points to think about rather than just resort to the cheap OMG!!! Acorn!!! nonsense. While I remain convinced that the US should adopt some sort of universal healthcare, and no, I do not believe the current bills floating around do enough to really achieve that particular end (and accept that you may not share that opinion), thank you for at least addressing the OP with something resembling reasoned countering opinion.
Trust me...
You want out of that hospital with it's assorted germs as soon as possible.
You want to get walking to prevent complications.
Tort reform, all we need!
good point! a hospital is a great place for a trauma patient, but a not so great place for a "sick" person .....
good point! a hospital is a great place for a trauma patient, but a not so great place for a "sick" person .....
Agreed, if we could fix the malpractice insurance rates we would solve a huge chunk of the costs associated with medical care. We have doctors the order every test known to mankind for fear that if they misdiagnose something they could be sued, my own primary care doctor is one of them even though I actually prefer that way due to my irrational fear of cancer ... I will gladly pay for whatever it takes to totally exclude that possibility.
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