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We lived in NM for 7 years, two things to remember: 1-you were walking one of the most liberal districts in the country,2-most Hispanics though conservative on social issues and family values they vote Democrats and last year was not a fair example of how people will vote in 2012. Many people just wanted to see anything connected with Bush, gone....This is like when Reagan ran in 1980..His landslide was not only because of his popularity but the dislike for Carter.
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yes, you are right about that. I was told that albuquerque & sta fe were the Dem strongholds, and south and east NM, the Repug strongholds. I encountered some that said that they were voting for the first time ever. I still do believe that it would be a very uphill struggle for any repug candidate to capture anywhere near 40% of the Hispanic vote as Bush did. Bush only did it b/c he seemed more "like one of us", with his mexican american relatives (Jeb & familia) and his close association with mexican americans in texas. it's hard to find a repug candidate with those qualities.
yes, you are right about that. I was told that albuquerque & sta fe were the Dem strongholds, and south and east NM, the Repug strongholds. I encountered some that said that they were voting for the first time ever. I still do believe that it would be a very uphill struggle for any repug candidate to capture anywhere near 40% of the Hispanic vote as Bush did. Bush only did it b/c he seemed more "like one of us", with his mexican american relatives (Jeb & familia) and his close association with mexican americans in texas. it's hard to find a repug candidate with those qualities.
Albuquerque isn't nearly as Democrat as Sante Fe, in fact they just elected a Republican mayor (that is a shock, I will say that) I he isn't hispanic either..As more people move into the state which is happening some changes will occur, still it will be remain Democrat for years.
Part of Bush's appeal to the hispanic voters had to do with his ability to speak Spanish so fluently as well. You are right, with the exceptionof a few areas Hispanics are not going to support Republicans. ONe exception are the Cubans in Southern Florida. They might be pretty well split. I am not going to take the time to look this up, but going by how it appeared when my husband used to travel there with one of our Presidents, it appears that way plus we have a few friends who say this.
To carry your point to its logical conclusion, the full data would be having the woman hold a baby or assist in a childbirth. That would be the full data. And what leads you to believe that every woman, or any woman does not know or truly understand the magnitude of what she is doing. That's one of the points of Planned Parenthood...to educate their clients on the choices available and the ramifications of those choices. Granted, not every woman goes to Planned Parenthood for an abortion, and not every abortion is perfomed by Planned Parenthood.
Supporting the requirement that the woman look at a sonogram is yet another example of the Right Wing hypocrisy that most people are afraid to point out. "We need the government to get out of our lives...unless it's for a belief or value that we want to impose on those that don't believe the same as we do". I have no issue with making a sonogram available if someone asks for it. But to impose a requirement for something that someone didn't ask for...and who foots the bill for the money wasted on a sonogram that was never requested?
Having an abortion is a very difficult choice between a woman, her doctor, and her God. The state has no business getting involved in people's private lives like that.
OK, let's look at this from what you have said; It is time for government to get out of our lives, I happen to agree with this and I am one that feels abortion shouldn't be an issue. But, if we buy your way of thinking, then tell me, should Abortion ever be paid for using government funds?
As long as government is involved in the abortion issue in anyway, except for the cost factor I think seeing a sonogram is a good, not a bad thing. You talk about the money wasted on a sonogram, would you like to explain what you mean by wasted?
What I mean by money being wasted on a sonogram is that a sonogram is produced when the patient did not request one. That is akin to a restaurant serving water to patrons who don't want or need it. It only gets thrown out. A waste of water. Or, to automatically print a receipt at an ATM when the user doesn't want or need one. It will only get thrown away. A waste of paper, ink, etc. That translates into wasted money for the restaurant or bank.
That is the same principle behind "automatically" producing a sonogram when it is not needed or asked for. This is a waste of money, resources, and time as in each example cited above.
Regarding whether government funds should be used to pay for abortions, I believe that it should be an option, but not a mandate. In the event that the option is exercised, there should be an obligation placed upon the recipient of services to either 1) pay the government back over time, or, 2) require the recipient of services to work off the obligation by performing some type of work or service for the government to the point that the expense is paid back in kind (kind of a variant of the barter system).
Let me be clear about my view of the role of government and the law. I do believe that there are certain aspects of living in this society in which the government should participate for the public good, such as not being able to shout "Fire" in a crowded theater when there is none. I support the mandatory wearing of seat belts when driving because it saves lives, thereby (probably) reducing the load on the ever-decreasing number of trauma centers. In my opinion, wearing seat belts is just a smart idea when compared to the possible consequences of not wearing them. I truly believe that a very signifiant portion of the American population is not smart enough to make sensible decisions most of the time. Some people truly need to be told what to do and what not to do.
I do not believe that a person should be able to successfully sue McDonald's because she spilled a cup of hot coffee on herself.
I do not believe that the federal government should be able to wiretap my phone without proper authorization and presentation of probable cause for doing so.
I do not believe that a person should wind up on the "No Fly" list without a reasonable legal explanation as to why they are on the list and without a means (process) for being removed from that list.
I don't feel, however, that the government (municipal, county, state, or federal) has the right to tell people that, by law, they cannot smoke in their own homes or their own private automobiles.
The government should not be able to tell me what I can and cannot do in the privacy of my own home, excepting things like abusing children, spouses, animals, etc., or doing things that pose danger to those around me. It should not be able to tell me what I can or cannot watch on the intenet or television, or what I can or cannot read. I do believe, however, that there should be laws in place that protect people, particularly children and the mentally challenged, from abuse perpetrated by others or by the government .
I've gotten a bit off track here, but to come back to the issue, I don't believe that the government has the right to tell a woman that she must go through a full gestation cycle and deliver a child, regardless of the circumstances of conception. This may sound a bit contradictory, but at the same time, I do not support late-term abortion. Frankly, at this moment, I'm not sure exactly where I draw the line on that.
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I intensely dislike that the choice of nearly every election is between a secular socialist candidate and a religious capitalist candidate. I want both free minds and free markets.
I will admit I am not well informed on the subject of this thread. But I have lived in about 10 states in my life and there seems to be a general stigma with Texas that many, many Texans are fanatically right wing, close minded and religious right crazies. An unfounded stereotype? What is it?
Ballot Proposition #4: Public Acknowledgement of God The use of the word "God", prayers, and the Ten Commandments should be allowed at public gatherings and public educational institutions, as well as be permitted on government buildings and property. (Propuesta Electoral #4: Reconocimiento Público de Dios) (El uso de la palabra "Dios", las oraciones, y los Diez Mandamientos deberÃan ser permitidos en reuniones públicas y dentro de Instituciones Públicas de Educación asà como ser permitidos en edificios y terrenos gubernamentales.)
oYES (SI) oNO (NO)
Unbelievable! I can't believe that I'm seeing these up for a vote in a Primary (Republican, Bexar Cty). this is not a theocracy that we live in. honestly, we sometimes are no better than iran. Even if the right wingers do vote "YES" on these, do they have any legal standing? They do not appear in the Democratic Primary ballot at all. Are they just for show or will they re-appear on the General ballot?
have you ever read the constitution those men believe in god. you speak as if the constitution was written by nonbelievers.The U.S.A, as far as I know is a republic and it should have every legal standing if they vote yes
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