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of course no one should be dismissing his chances at this point, on the other hand, you have now explained something to me, from one of your responses to me, you are knowledgable about the world of politics, but you also, because of your age put way to much into studies, polls, stats and what you read. anyone of us can pick apart some of what you are saying: Bush senior, can we spell Parot? You are right it is way to soon to assume Obama will get beat, but as one who was there in every election you are referring to, I will repeat, things are very different today than 20 or 30 years ago..
I will give you just a little food for thought and then bow out for now: Reagan may have had similar approval numbers but he was one of the most loved Presidents in modern time, yes, in 82. Everyone liked him, whether they approved of what he was doing: 2-his landslide victory in 84 had a lot to do with a crappy opponent: This can be said about Bush Jr as well, Kerry was a horrible choise as was Dole in 96.
If the Republicans can find that candidate that will spark the people, Obama is deadmeat...If not, we will have him as our leader until 2016.
Hillary. Either she'll run as the party nominee when Obama refuses to run for a second term, or she'll have maneuvered herself into being the sitting president if Obama steps down for any reason.
If Obama steps down that puts Pelosi and San Franscisco one step closer to controlling the country. Clinton can't replace Obama that way. In fact, Robert Byrd is closer in the line of succession than she is.
Does anyone under 30 know the meaning of ad hominem?
Ad hominem attacks are not only childish but fall under the category of logical fallacy and are therefore irrational. So, while you may have succeeded in pointing out the fact that the poster placed an "a" where there should have been an "e", you have also demonstrated that you are childish and irrational. Feel better now? Kids!
we were in DC during the Reagan years, regardless of what you are reading about his ratings, much depends on where you are getting your figures. He was highly thought of and very much loved, this is the difference right now. I do agree with you, it is rediculous to say Obama will be gone in 2012 at this stage..Incumbents are hard to beat, but lets look at 1980 and 1992 as examples. To you, that might not be modern day elections because of your age, to many of us any election in the past 30 years or so would be considered modern day. You can continue to believe in Obama and I have to admit I am glad to see young people take such an interest in politics, but don't be too surprised if he does loose or at best sneaks out a victory. Again, you can't begin to realize the difference in our political enviornment 30 yeras ago and today..
Nita
To say Reagan was loved 28 years ago is simply false, the evidence just doesn't back that up. Now by 84 he was very well liked, I'm not going to deny that, but no evidence whatsoever suggests that he was liked in 82 and early 83. None what so ever. His overall ratings as President were in the low 50's. Now looking back many people say he was a very good President, but that wasn't the case during some portions of his Presidency. His numbers were not strong in 82 and early 83, his numbers weren't strong in late 86 and a good chunk of 87 during the aftermath of Iran-Contra.
Who Will Run For President On The 2012 Democratic Ticket? Obama Can't Win. So Who?
It is obvious to most Americans, that Barack, ideologically, holds too nearly to himself - Socialism.
Barack is embraced dearly by uber-liberals and folks who HOPE to get something for nothing.
Are there any Democrats who will actually decide to support business and the jobs that become available through their employee's hard work?
Without bending to union demands for more power and taxpayer funded subsidies?
Is there one person who could run on the Democratic Ticket in 2012 that has the grit to stand up for what Americans want?
Not gay rights. Not wealth resdistribution.
But, fiscal responsibility. No apology tours. No more deals that stink of bribery and back room, closed ears legislation.
Since Obama has turned America's Center off, how can Democrats really expect some sort of victory in the next Presidential election?
If Democrats care about their future, they'd better start thinking about how that future will be achieved. It won't be with Obama.
Hillary won't run again either.
I think they will sacrifice Obama in the next election and look for Hillary in 2016. Obama does not stand a snowball's chance in 2012, but the dems will put him up in an effort to not appear 'racist".
heck, I can't spell anything, I am dyslexic..have learned to live with it, and managed to get through college, but don't know how. Thanks for reminding me I can't spell, this is very kind of you..
To say Reagan was loved 28 years ago is simply false, the evidence just doesn't back that up. Now by 84 he was very well liked, I'm not going to deny that, but no evidence whatsoever suggests that he was liked in 82 and early 83. None what so ever. His overall ratings as President were in the low 50's. Now looking back many people say he was a very good President, but that wasn't the case during some portions of his Presidency. His numbers were not strong in 82 and early 83, his numbers weren't strong in late 86 and a good chunk of 87 during the aftermath of Iran-Contra.
you are right about the Iran-Contra mess, but wrong about loved; I am not talking about his approval as a President, I am talking about his popularity as a person. You are totally missing what I was or am saying.
you are right about the Iran-Contra mess, but wrong about loved; I am not talking about his approval as a President, I am talking about his popularity as a person. You are totally missing what I was or am saying.
Nita
Ahh ok, I would add however that Obama is generally liked as a person, and the polls tend to back that up (favorability polls, which should not be confused with approval polls).
BTW, this is a little off topic, but as someone who did rather extensive studying and research on the Iran-Contra affair as well as a huge paper in a 300 level History class on the Nicaragua vs U.S 1986 ICC case, I am amazed that Reagan escaped that the way he did. He did take a hit from it, but considering everything the Iran-Contra saga entailed its amazing he didn't suffer much more than what he did.
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Clinton can't replace Obama that way. In fact, Robert Byrd is closer in the line of succession than she is.
Kids!
