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Old 08-10-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Originally Posted by green_mariner View Post
Prove that I'm a "weak minded follower". Prove it.
Your post is all the proof needed.

 
Old 08-10-2016, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Eastwood is not really a Trump backer. He simply said that he does not support the Obama agenda and that Hillary promises to continue that....so he is not supporting Hillary.

Are you liberal snowflakes really OK with attacking anybody with a different political outlook? I did a book review on the left wing Thought Police. The left wing preaches tolerance when it is, in fact, the least tolerant group imaginable.

Should Hollywood denounce Eastwood for speaking his mind? The gist of Eastwoods comments are:
1) He is not supporting Hillary. Are you surprised? Eastwood is a known conservative living in a land of liberalism.
3) He denounced our current, popular mind set as being the mind set of "*******". I just call them delicate little snowflakes....more politically correct I guess.

This is absolute insanity.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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You should be scared of us.
Not because you are black, but because you are a weak minded follower. We hate that.
Why should anyone be scared of you, you have no power over anybody?
 
Old 08-10-2016, 09:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
For an individual no....but history is littered with group-think oppression throughout the arts, sciences etc.

Maybe moral is the wrong word but unless the person is advocating something like genocide etc. then I think it gets into a grey area if it becomes an actual movement.

Let me give an example.
1) Bob doesn't shop at Pete's flower shop because Pete is gay. Now I don't agree with Bob but it's his right to do so. I think we can all agree on that.

2) Bob organizes a boycott of Pete's flower shop and ALSO pressures people that do shop there with coercion, threat of being included in the boycott, yelling at customer from across the street as they enter and such tactics.

I personally think #2 takes things too far and at some point impinges on Pete's pursuit of happiness. However, this tactic is used by various groups from anti-abortion protesters to Chick-fil-a protesters etc.

This is the type if tactic that could be used on a Hollywood actor. Not the refusing to work with them but the pressure put on people who do. That starts to become a blacklisting conspiracy.
People have the right to protest, but there are still restrictions and boundaries they cannot legally cross. Threatening employees and customers with violence or committing violence is amongst these restrictions which if violated could lead to them being arrested.

As far as blacklisting, it would be one of those things that will be hard to actually prove if it did happen. But it most likely will not. Almost all of us will forget about Eastwood's comments in a year.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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Your post is all the proof needed.
Show me in the post where I would be a "weak-minded follower". You haven't shown anything. My post being all you need, that isn't enough. Until you can prove your point by showing me, then you are proving yourself to be weak-minded. I will explain. You call me a weak-minded follower for a post I made. I asked for you to prove it. Your response was "your post is all the proof needed". Where in the post? You did not show me. By your failure to show me, it lets me know that you can't show me. Not backing up your statement with some action means you only react to something that you disagree with. You have only proven that you disagree in a petulant way.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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This was too much, I guess. I could say that Trump is a racist, but it's not like Clint Eastwood is a deliberate racist.
What is a "deliberate racist" and what is the opposite of a "deliberate racist" (is that an "undeliberate racist")?
 
Old 08-10-2016, 02:08 PM
 
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Whether you agree with Mr. Eastwood's remarks or not, you must realize that this is not a freedom of speech issue. The First Amendment applies only to governmental actions regarding speech, not private industry.
Wrong. It's not a First Amendment issue, but it certainly is a free speech issue.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 02:11 PM
 
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Perhaps you should spend some time reading about Roman Polanski's youth and young adulthood before you condemn him for not following your personal code of conduct. And the term is statutory rape, not just 'rape'.
No, it's not -- it's "rape". "Statutory rape" is real rape, to begin with, but it would have been rape even if the girl had been 18 or 21. He drugged the girl.
 
Old 08-10-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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Wrong. It's not a First Amendment issue, but it certainly is a free speech issue.
Please elaborate further.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I was shocked at everything he said. Sad having been a fan. However, I do believe that those who feel strongly should back their words up by not working for him again. By the same token I don't think it is right to have everyone campaign to make him pay for speaking his truth. Now that I know who he really is he won't get my money if I am aware he is behind a project. Everyone has the right to deal with the madness of others the way they see fit. I don't pay others bills so I won't judge if they grumble in silence while still indulging in what will bring them fame and fortune.
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