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Old 06-15-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Why?! I’d much rather watch Avengers than most of the garbage that gets awards attention every year, and I majored in philosophy and have studied film history from the 1890s through present. I’m also in the film industry and have written and directed a feature. I still don’t want to see most of what goes to art house theaters. Sure there are the occasional movies like Whiplash and Birdman that I love, but for every one of them there are 10 movies that absolutely suck and are complete wastes of time like Boyhood, Call Me By Your Name, Manchester by the Sea, and other things with zero appeal to me or most audiences. If I go watch a Marvel film, so far I am 100% guaranteed across 22 movies to really enjoy it. If I go watch an awards movie, I’d say I’m 90% likely to hate it and 20% likely to think it’s one of the worst movies of all time.

I’ll take my AAA video games and Hollywood blockbusters any day!
I don'y like artsy movies either.

But action movies like Marvel's are limited by the need to be measured based on profitability. For example, humor sells.

Now marvel movie's have too much humor. Same with plot, intrigue/mystery can't limit the action or good vs. bad dynamic for the special affects industry needs to make money so even when mystery could better an action movies plot, it is usually stripped down.
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Old 07-13-2019, 01:28 PM
 
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A lot of cats hated it when the film industry devoured the comics industry in the late nineties. Not saying there wasn't an issue with propaganda before (present & prevalent in the very early issues of the incredible one) but basically the media is part of the globalist propaganda wing for fascists & national socialists, their slaver sidekicks from the man-children & the spawn between the two.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Like it or not, Superheroes/comic books are the new genre for Hollywood. The fans want them, and Hollywood knows it'll bring in the money. After all, the goal is to make money, not burn a giant budget and get nothing back. When Disney bought Marvel in 2009, they saw what Paramount was going to do and knew they could do/make it better. Kevin Fiege (CEO of Marvel Studios) has talked about the countless hours and days spent in a board room with others, constantly mapping out their universe, how they'd tie it all in, which movies to make and when, which all turned into the MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe). Disney knew what they were doing. They had the funds, they have yet to cast a bad actor for any of the roles so far, and they were able to tell a story that spanned over a decade. Look at Warner Bros, who owns all of DC Comics and their heroes, unlike Marvel (Sony will lose Spider-Man soon, I just know it - I hope), who tried to replicate what took Marvel/Disney over 10 years, in less than 3. It was nothing but a giant cluster****; big disaster. They seem to be finding their way, but the abandoned the idea of making their own version of the MCU connecting all of their movies, and will be focusing on standalone films.


They aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and for people like me, I'm loving every second of it.
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Old 09-27-2019, 02:49 PM
 
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For those that watch the movies, you shouldn't forget the saying that the book is sometimes better.

A lot of fans were upset the way the film devoured the comics industry at the turn of the century.

Might be worth checking out the old school stories from the 1960's-1990's.
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Like it or not, Superheroes/comic books are the new genre for Hollywood. The fans want them, and Hollywood knows it'll bring in the money. After all, the goal is to make money, not burn a giant budget and get nothing back. When Disney bought Marvel in 2009, they saw what Paramount was going to do and knew they could do/make it better. Kevin Fiege (CEO of Marvel Studios) has talked about the countless hours and days spent in a board room with others, constantly mapping out their universe, how they'd tie it all in, which movies to make and when, which all turned into the MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe). Disney knew what they were doing. They had the funds, they have yet to cast a bad actor for any of the roles so far, and they were able to tell a story that spanned over a decade. Look at Warner Bros, who owns all of DC Comics and their heroes, unlike Marvel (Sony will lose Spider-Man soon, I just know it - I hope), who tried to replicate what took Marvel/Disney over 10 years, in less than 3. It was nothing but a giant cluster****; big disaster. They seem to be finding their way, but the abandoned the idea of making their own version of the MCU connecting all of their movies, and will be focusing on standalone films.


They aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and for people like me, I'm loving every second of it.
I'm actually fine with superhero movies.

The problem is the serialization the MCU has created where marketing and cross overs take precedent over original story telling.

Movies should feel unique and different, but there is a homogenization that is happening where a few different genres are learning what works and work to maximize profits.

The movies are literally advertisements for the next one.

Take the Star Wars prequels, people were unhappy when they came out, but at least they were trying to be new and not just a continuation of the same story. The new Disney star wars are trying to do the same thing they did with the MCU.

Sony did better when they made stand alone films, hit or miss. Now because of corporate production they've found this algorithm to fit Spider-man in ever avengers movie. The novelty of the whole thing weared off a long time ago.
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