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Old 07-08-2013, 06:16 PM
 
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We have had several issues with the property/landlord we were renting from. We have finally been able to move out, and cleaned it beyond expectations. There are scratches on the freezer door (stainless steel fridge). They look like possible rust scratches..but not sure. She is claiming we made these damages, but do not know how it would be possible. It was inside (kitchen), and only a few magnets were placed on it. Is there anything I can do to lower the cost of the replacement? We are being charged over 200.00, because she claims we will have to replace the freezer door. Any advice? Also, what kind of time frame do we have to reimburse her if we are responsible? (FYI: Located in OR)
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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It will depend on how long she/he will wait before taking you to court. If she has before and after pictures, you will have to pay right away unless they withhold your deposit. If they have no pictures (Ask to see them) then deny it all and let them explain it to a judge. I would not mention the magnets again.
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:14 PM
 
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Okay, can we request proof that it can not be fixed any other way? I have read a few things online stating there are DIY kits to fix such scratches, and we are more than willing to fix it, but I do not believe she considered that route, nor did she have a professional come to look at it before she decided she wanted to replace it. There is also a dent in it (before we moved in, and she admitted that), is there a way to lower our responsibility (if proven we are responsible) since the door was already damaged? Thanks again!
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Not really. It kind of sounds like you believe you may have caused some of the damage. They do not have to do the cheapest fix. But if you fight it, they will need to prove it was not that way when you moved in. It was that way when you moved out. And it was not normal wear and tear. But only if you say "Take me to court."

Plus ....... I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on TV or anyplace else.

You are asking questions in a forum that should be asked of a proffessional, not a buch of forum denizens.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Scratches do not appear like magic all by themselves. Even if you do not know how you, or your family, or your guests made the scratches, I can assure you it wasn't the Good Housekeeping Fairy, sneaking in during the night to clean and vacuum while you were asleep that put the scratches on the fridge. (My ex thought that was who did all the work to keep our house in it's spotless state)

The judge is not going to believe that the landlord tiptoed in and scratched the fridge, either.

That pretty much leaves you responsible.

No, scratches in stainless steel can not be repaired with any sort of economical process. Scratches in painted appliances can be repaired, but only if they are just in the surface (and it isn't cheap).

If the landlord is going to the effort of ordering just the freezer door, your landlord is doing the repair in the very cheapest way, and making an extra effort to do it in the very cheapest way.

If you don't know how the scratches got there, is it possible that someone who was helping you move your stuff out dragged something across the fridge? My units often get a lot of damage during move-out when one of the tenants or movers isn't cautious about looking to see if what they are carrying fits through the space they are about to go through.
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:28 PM
 
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$200. isn't bad for move-out costs. The last time we moved out of a rental, we were charged $700. even though the place was cleaner and in better shape when we moved out than it was when we moved in. The $700 was supposedly to replace sections of carpet, even though the carpet was bad when we moved in and we made note of the poor condition of the carpet on our move-in checklist when we initially moved in. We just sucked-it-up and paid the money. Glad to be done with renting so as not to have to deal with landlord's anymore (we bought a home). I suppose because we had documentation we could have fought them in court... but we had suffered through several other problems with them and were really sick of dealing with them... so we just wrote the check and bid good riddance.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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Take the value of the refrigerator, years used deduct 10 percent per year....compare with looks of housing, other appliances , debate that it does not effect the use of the refrigerator..... and does anyone know that if they charge you to fix it....do they have to prove that they did in fact do so....my landlord says they fixed things that I saw later visiting someplace that I used to live that they had not
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Oregon state law. The landlord is not required to do the repairs at the time that the damage was charged and collected for.

Tenant does the damage, reduces the value of the rental, and tenant gets to pay for the damage.

This is Oregon state specific and the laws in other states are going to vary.
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Do you have a reference ORS?
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Old 08-18-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Do you have a reference ORS?
Sure, just go and read the Oregon state landlord tenant laws. They are on-line. The index works pretty well, so you can find the landlord section.

I just looked it up 2 months ago. I had a tenant smash up a lava rock fireplace and hearth. Account has to be given within 30 days and we couldn't get the rock to do the repairs that fast. So the tenant was billed and the repair was done after the 30 period was over. There was a written estimate of the cost, but it doesn't look to me like the law even requires a written estimate.

I probably should add that Eugene is socialist leaning and they have some landlord tenant laws that are more extreme than the state laws. So there might be a local law about it that differs from state law.
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