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Old 06-23-2008, 02:05 PM
 
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Hi there - I moved out to Eugene from NJ in 1990. I lived there for 2 years. I was 18 and held a minimum wage job AND I associated with a lot of ruffians in those days. I can tell you that at least back THEN, there was a large homeless population that thrived on 13th street, especially in front of the 7-11 and thereabouts. Because of nearby and plentiful services, it drew a lot of runaways and mentally ill. And there was a lot of drug trade, that both operated independently of and thrived on the U of O students. A serious sideline of the drug "entrepreneurs" was theft.

Now, I am not knocking Eugene, I think it is a beautiful place to live. It dazzled me after the East Coast and was our purposeful choice to stop after a month of traveling the country looking for a good place to settle. I have many good memories of the place. But, I am not suprised to hear so many reports of theft, sadly. Dunno what to tell you other that I am sorry for your loss We recently had our house broken into and valuables stolen (I'm in Delaware) so I understand the outrage and violation you feel. I hope you get some results!!
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:59 PM
 
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The crime really sucks in Eugene. Whithin a month of moving here I had my motorcyle stolen and my car broken into.

Crackheads regualry cruise my neighborhood looking down driveways for things to steal. I've never lived in a city this small that had so much crime.

I'm glad to be moving back to Arizona. Eugene is a great town in a Beautiful area but it is ruined by the crime. The city really needs to get it's act togher and do something about it. Most of downtown has been given over to the homeless and drug dealers. Just go hand out in front of the Library for a few hous and it becomes painfully obvious. That and the empty stores in the center of downtown. I wouldn't want my business down there with all those druggies and transients hanging around.

I recomend moving to Corvallis over Eugene. Less crime and BS to deal with.

And yes, every city has crime but I think Eugene has way more than it's fair share. I've lived in 13 different cities and have never had such problems witrh crime as I do here. Not to mention the rampant grafatti.

So if you want a small town feel with big city crime, than by all means move to Eugene.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Wow...you guys know nothing! lets not listen to someone who has lived here a month! i love oregon, and somebody that hasnt lived long, cant say anything!
What terribly rude things to say to someone just because they happen to have been victims of crime in your "Utopian" city. I love Scranton, PA as much as you love Eugene, OR, but I'd never squash someone's right to have honest criticisms about our fair city.

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and here is a question for you..... can you name one city that doesnt have any crime?!
No. I can't. However, I also am hard-pressed to find any other city roughly the same size as either Eugene or Springfield where auto theft has become such a dire issue. That's not something you should be very proud of.

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sure once in awhile someone will get there car broken into but here is an option for you GET INSURANCE, it will cover anything that happends to your car, or your belongings in [color=blue]thier car!
Several in this thread who were victims of crime already said that your uneducated police force refused to assist them because they were too busy responding to other more "important" crimes. Often times without a police report you have a very difficult time convincing an insurance adjuster of the totality of your loss.

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compared to most states, our crime rate is nothig!
I would assume first of all that you had intended to type nothing instead of "nothig" (the new spell check feature comes in quite handy). Next, we're not talking about the state of Oregon as a whole; we're talking exclusively about the city of Eugene.

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sure we have our crapy party of town just like every state, but that is your choice to live there!
January 2007: Dallas, PA. A gay porn producer is stabbed multiple times, nearly decapitated, had his home set ablaze, and his luxury car stolen in a very affluent suburban area of Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, PA.

Also in Dallas several years earlier was the case of a man who had several bodies buried in his backyard, after dismembering them and charring them, of course.

Recently it has come to our local media's attention that the very affluent Abington Heights School District, where most students are children of politicians, physicians, attorneys, engineers, etc., has a very serious drug problem.

In my community of Pittston, PA (pop. 7,500), nearly three dozen people were busted recently in yet another drug sting. This is a town where "everyone knows each other," much as you say is the case with Eugene. You never truly know somebody; how many people outside of the Internet and my social circle do you think know I'm a homosexual, for example? Continue to stick your head in the sand with your "it can't happen here" mentality the same way folks did in Littleton, CO (Columbine), Omaha, NE (mall shooting), Salt Lake City, Utah's upscale suburbs (Elizabeth Smart kidnapping), etc. No. Crime can "never" happen to you because you so wisely chose to live in the better part of town unlike those fools who "chose" to live in the bad part of town. Crime knows no boundaries.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:42 AM
 
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Bravo, ScranBarre! I had not even seen the post that you referenced but I can hardly believe someone could be that rude to another person after they had been victimized. I say that as someone who just last week had my house broken into - back door glass smashed, belongings tossed everywhere looking for valuables, and items with sentimental family value taken. Jeez! I'm betting this person has never experienced what the OP did, you think?

I repeat my own offering - I think Eugene is a LOVELY place. I was only there for 2 years, moved to Portland for job opportunities. It's been a long time so I don't know what's changed. But, I worked at the 7-11 on 13th street and we saw a lot, a lot, a LOT of homeless and street kids. I regularly had to move kids along. A lot of panhandling, and attempts to shoplift, and drug trade. I even saw one homeless person squatting on the street to do her business, you know, the kind that leaves a pile and draws flies? As for theft, the kids then thought it was cool to steal paychecks out of mailboxes. I have no idea how they cashed them, but they did. They also stole belongings that were left out on patios in the open. While this isn't the same thing, and definitely people should secure their belongings, lock cars, do what they can to prevent crime, etc., I think it's an indication of the problem and the mentality at work here.

To the OP, I can't comment on the efficiency of the police force but I will say that just about anywhere, you have to be the squeaky wheel to get the grease, and you have to be prepared to do some of the legwork yourself. When our place got broken into, we had to specifically point the policeman to stuff that was lying on the floor in our house and suggest that he dust for fingerprints. And I had to call the station myself a week later to ask for the detective that had been assigned, introduce myself, and provide extra details that *I* had found out, to help him along. And years ago, I had the same type of police experience dealing with an identity theft/check fraud incident. I kept following up and pestering and doing my own detective work and we finally caught the guy. So I'm really, really sorry for you that you had this happen but maybe you might get better results by getting out there and seeing if you can find out anything yourself - maybe at least just feel better by doing something, KWIM? What about a local crimewatch group - if there's such a problem in Eugene, as it seems, there have got to be other people you can share info with, maybe compare notes, come up with something to take to the police...

And regarding the whole "love it or leave it" thing...please. So people are just supposed to accept crime and deteriorating neighborhoods, or leave town? At that rate, cities everywhere would turn into cesspools. If you love a place, you are supposed to care about it and care FOR it and that includes wanting it to be relatively clean and safe and sane. Anyone who gets so offended and so absolute in their opinions is sticking their head in the sand. How about if you don't like people complaining about crime, YOU leave and find someplace where no one gives a hoot, just be prepared for no one to care if something like that happens to you.

Oh and BTW, re: car insurance.....I have home insurance that covers the theft, I'll get some sort of money compensation for the loss. Does that make up for the fact that I no longer have these things that held great sentimental value for me? NO.

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Old 06-26-2008, 09:36 AM
 
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Update, since my last post the gas has been siphoned from my car twice.

Like I said before, skip Eugene and head to Corvallis.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Eugene, OR
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I've heard a lot of mention elsewhere of high crime rates, but I've always assumed this could be attributed to Eugene's legendary bike theft problem around the uofO campus. I've lived in Eugene for 8 years, and except for bike thefts I've never had a problem. No crimes around my house or neighborhood in any of the five places I've lived. I've never heard of any of my friends or acquaintances being robbed here, or had violent crimes committed, or had a house broken into, nothing whatsoever. College girls are often a bit hysterical about walking alone at night here, but when I was younger, my friends and I used to walk around through downtown all the time, and never got bothered by anyone, so I've always dismissed that as unnecessary hysteria from people who haven't actually gone outside. My friends and I love living in Eugene precisely because we always feel it's one of the safest places we've ever been. Our house now is on a popular fairly busy street, yet my bike always stands unlocked at the front door, and hasn't been stolen. We never lock our house, I ride my bike to the supermarket and leave it standing there unlocked, no problem whatsoever.

I will add though that the rather corrupt polive here harasses people all the time, and hugely overexagerates every minor thing that happens in an attempt to scare citizens into giving them more funding. So don't listen to everything you hear the police say on the news. (Like I said, even the property crime figures I suspect are 99% bike theft) Perhaps you were just unlucky?
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:56 PM
 
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The most recent crime data I could find online for Corvallis and Eugene were from 2006. Some of the data I found on the Oregon State police department and some of the data was from the city police departments themselves. Here's what I found:

Eugene - population 153,690 (this does not include unincorporated areas within or surrounding Eugene or nearby cities such as Springfield. The "metro" area has a population of around 343,140)

Corvallis - population 53,000.

Eugene - 10,000 crimes reported in 2006

Corvallis - 7, 300 crimes reported in 2006

Eugene - 1 officer per 850 residents; 300 total employees; 120 volunteers; 106 civilian employees

Corvallis - 1 officer per 950 residents; 86 total employees

What does all this mean? I don't know. It's just what I found. I personally don't think it's fair to compare Eugene and Corvallis as far as crime is concerned. They have very different populations in size and situation. And in both cities, the crimes which happen on the college campuses are dealt with by the Oregon State Police, not the local city police, so both of them being a "college town" doesn't really seem to matter much.

On the City of Eugene website, there is an interactive map that you may play around with which definitely gives you an idea of the sketchy parts of town to be aware of. If you live in or around those parts of town I would be extremely vigilant and prepare yourself for any number of crimes. This goes for any city, though, and especially larger ones.

We live in the north Eugene area, and have for almost 4 years (we took a year off to live in the Seattle area... not such a good idea...), and have never had anything bad happen to us at all. We also spend time downtown at the Library and Saturday Market and have never had problems. We also ride our bikes all over town without any problems. My husband, though, works in West Eugene and they have had crime problems there. We have been warned by realtors to stay away from certain parts of the River Road and Santa Clara neighborhoods (some parts are great, some not so great) and especially the Downtown and Whitaker (sp?) neighborhoods. Really it seems to depend on where you are in Eugene as far as what you might experience, or what your risk level is.

The problem with any statistical info or compilations is that the numbers can be manipulated to make a place look better or worse depending... You can look at the number of crimes and the size of population but even there you have certain variables that make it hard to really see the truth.

Be safe everybody!
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Old 08-16-2008, 09:37 AM
 
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The most recent crime data I could find online for Corvallis and Eugene were from 2006. Some of the data I found on the Oregon State police department and some of the data was from the city police departments themselves. Here's what I found:

Eugene - population 153,690 (this does not include unincorporated areas within or surrounding Eugene or nearby cities such as Springfield. The "metro" area has a population of around 343,140)

Corvallis - population 53,000.

Eugene - 10,000 crimes reported in 2006

Corvallis - 7, 300 crimes reported in 2006

Eugene - 1 officer per 850 residents; 300 total employees; 120 volunteers; 106 civilian employees

Corvallis - 1 officer per 950 residents; 86 total employees

What does all this mean? I don't know. It's just what I found. I personally don't think it's fair to compare Eugene and Corvallis as far as crime is concerned. They have very different populations in size and situation. And in both cities, the crimes which happen on the college campuses are dealt with by the Oregon State Police, not the local city police, so both of them being a "college town" doesn't really seem to matter much.

On the City of Eugene website, there is an interactive map that you may play around with which definitely gives you an idea of the sketchy parts of town to be aware of. If you live in or around those parts of town I would be extremely vigilant and prepare yourself for any number of crimes. This goes for any city, though, and especially larger ones.

We live in the north Eugene area, and have for almost 4 years (we took a year off to live in the Seattle area... not such a good idea...), and have never had anything bad happen to us at all. We also spend time downtown at the Library and Saturday Market and have never had problems. We also ride our bikes all over town without any problems. My husband, though, works in West Eugene and they have had crime problems there. We have been warned by realtors to stay away from certain parts of the River Road and Santa Clara neighborhoods (some parts are great, some not so great) and especially the Downtown and Whitaker (sp?) neighborhoods. Really it seems to depend on where you are in Eugene as far as what you might experience, or what your risk level is.

The problem with any statistical info or compilations is that the numbers can be manipulated to make a place look better or worse depending... You can look at the number of crimes and the size of population but even there you have certain variables that make it hard to really see the truth.

Be safe everybody!
Never mind the stats. Spend a a few hours in downtown Eugene then spend a few hours in downtown corvallis. Downtown eugene is full of drunks, boarded up buildings all down broadway, the area around the library is a great place to buy drugs and thee are huge holes were buildings used to be.

Now go to downtown Corvallis. It's busy, vibrant, and safe.

You can quote stats all day but all it takes it a quick visit to either town to see for your self. Eugene really dropped the ball on downtown development. It's been mostly taken over by street kids and drug dealers. But hey don't take my word, see for yourself.

Here are some notable accolades given to Corvallis.

Rankings and recognition


Corvallis-Benton County Public Library


  • OSU named "Safest Pac-10 Campus" (University of Southern California study, 1994.)[13]
  • Corvallis named "One of the 13 best towns to be a vegetarian" (Vegan Magazine study, 1995.)[14]
  • An article in Parade magazine rated Corvallis as "One of the 10 best cities in which to live" (1996).[14]
  • Corvallis School District named one of the top public school systems in the country (Offspring Magazine, 2000.)[14]
  • Corvallis-Benton County Public Library named one of top ten libraries in the country based on population size (Hennen's American Public Library Ratings study, 2002.)[15]
  • Corvallis ranked fourth in nation for the highest number of patents issued by city (USA Today, 2002.)[12]
  • Corvallis ranked 7th out of about 500 U.S. cities for best places to do business (BizDemographics, 2002.)[14]
  • The Bicycle Transportation Alliance ranked Corvallis as Oregon's most bicycle-friendly city (2002).[14]
  • The Orange County Register picked Corvallis' Oregon State University as the "Best Pac-10 Campus" (2002).[14]
  • The National Arbor Day Foundation awarded Corvallis a Tree City USA Award in 2002.[12] They also awarded Corvallis the Tree City USA Growth Award in 2003.[16]
  • Bike USA listed Corvallis as the 9th most bicycle-friendly city in the nation.[12]
  • The League of American Bicyclists gave Corvallis a gold "Bicycle-Friendly Community" designation in May 2003, one of only four such cities in the nation as of 2006.[17]
  • Frommer's Travel Guides, Cities Ranked & Rated ranks Corvallis as the 10th best city of any size in the United States and Canada.[18]
  • The February 2004 issue of the Harvard Business Review ranks Corvallis as the 15th most creative city in the nation.[19]
  • Bike at Work listed Corvallis as the 9th best city in the nation "As a car free community" (2005).[12]
  • Men's Journal ranked Corvallis as "The 8th best place in the nation to live" in 2003.[19] In April 2005, they moved Corvallis up one place to 7th.[14]
  • Expansion Management selected Corvallis as a "Five-Star Knowledge Worker Metro", the highest rating achievable (2005).[20]
  • A survey by the National Science Foundation found Corvallis ranks second in the nation for the number of scientists as a percentage of total employment (12.7 percent) as of 2006.[21]
  • Corvallis was the first city on the West Coast and only the third city in the nation to receive the "Green Power Community" designation by the EPA (2006).[22]
  • In 2006, the Morgan Quitno Awards ranked Corvallis as the 20th safest city (of 344) in the 13th Annual America's Safest (and Most Dangerous) Cities publication for metropolitan areas of its size.[23]
  • In a 2007 report, Farmer's Insurance Group ranked Corvallis as the "most secure" small city in America, based on (as reported by Insurance Journal magazine) crime statistics, extreme weather, risk of natural disasters, environmental hazards, terrorism threats, air quality, life expectancy and job loss numbers.[24]
  • On February 18, 2008, Corvallis was named the fifth smartest city in America by Forbes Online Magazine.[25]
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:11 PM
 
Location: FINALLY in N. Idaho
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Eugene Oregon, one of the strangest places I ever visited.. ONCE;-) Dirty hippies everywhere, you can get a bag of weed 24/7 but a good bottle of scotch after dark is out of the question. And how ANYONE finds thier way around that town is beyond me. It was like I was in the twighlight zone. Very strange place, VERY.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:37 PM
 
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WOW after reading all the comments doubt about moving started to set in my mind. Then I remembered I'm from Los Angeles,CA. LOL no I'm kidding. But I did start doubting moving since there is a lot of talk about the crime there. I just need to see it for myself. My step dad has lived there for probably 10 years and he loves it. I plan on visiting in January. I am still going to think positive and not make any moves with negative thoughts.
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