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Old 05-08-2011, 04:15 AM
 
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for all that berlin bagging here, frankly vienna has always been the major city in the german-speaking world for almost a millenium.. it's only 'recently' that vienna has lost that status to berlin due to the loss of it's political power after WWI. But keep in mind that in 1910 vienna was the fourth-biggest city in the world. 4th to London, New York and Paris respectively. You don't lose that basic composition within a century... One might say that vienna has fallen in the great sleep for the 20th century but it's got it's proper renaissance right now.. Vienna soley is sooo in the coming in current Europe.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:34 AM
 
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for all that berlin bagging here, frankly vienna has always been the major city in the german-speaking world for almost a millenium.. it's only 'recently' that vienna has lost that status to berlin due to the loss of it's political power after WWI. But keep in mind that in 1910 vienna was the fourth-biggest city in the world. 4th to London, New York and Paris respectively. You don't lose that basic composition within a century... One might say that vienna has fallen in the great sleep for the 20th century but it's got it's proper renaissance right now.. Vienna soley is sooo in the coming in current Europe.

Berlin was the third largest city in the world in 1920 It became much larger than Vienna even before WW2
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:48 PM
 
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I imagine Berlin is more indie/artsy, working class, dirty, lively, city for cool kids, while Vienna is, like previously stated, a bit off the radar at the moment except for those into arts that are considered bourgeoisie, like Classic music. It's unfortunate Berlin has such a high unemployment rate because I'd love to experience living there a bit myself, but I don't think it's worth it at my age to be making 10 Euro an hour, part-time, or free-lance looking desperately for any teaching work I can find along with tons of other foreigners wanting to be part of the excitement. If you're a specialist in IT, software engineering, or various other engineering fields, you likely will have luck as you will in most cities. I wish I knew this when I started university as I always wanted to work internationally. Oddly, Intl Relations isn't really that great for that purpose.
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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Berlin was the third largest city in the world in 1920
But it was in Europe, not in the world.
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:12 AM
 
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he dasdingansich... weils so gut passt:
YouTube - BILLY JOEL - VIENNA
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:31 AM
 
Location: lyon, france
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Vienna wins in terms of architecture. Berlin was so bombed out in WWII that most of its pretty architecture got destroyed. Berlin wins big time when it comes to arts and nightlife and Berlin is also very much ploitically left-wing.
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Berlin is A LOT grittier, a lot larger, and a lot more varied. I would think that it is also a lot more liberal - given that Austrians, in general, are a tad more conservative than Germans and that Berlin is one of the most "left" cities in Germany. I would also think that it might be easier to get accepted in Berlin, while my perceptions of Vienna indicate that it is a bit more "clique-y."
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I imagine Berlin is more indie/artsy, working class, dirty, lively, city for cool kids, while Vienna is, like previously stated, a bit off the radar at the moment except for those into arts that are considered bourgeoisie, like Classic music.
i lived in vienna a few months (granted, a quarter century ago) and have visited berlin a few times, and agree absolutely to the above views.

DasDinganSich says he's left leaning so this is a no-brainer for me: berlin all the way. when in vienna i often wondered if hitler was really dead.
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:35 AM
 
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I love Vienna, in fact I'm off to visit this weekend. I love museums and concerts.

Berlin if you're younger, for certain.
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Belgium
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You should watch the movie "Before Sunrise" with Ethan Hawke and Julie Delphy. It's almost entirely set in Vienna (well, the Vienna of 1995, but I guess it hasn't changed thát much since then )
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:10 AM
 
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This is a no brainer, Berlin by far.

I think that Berlin is a good place to improve your German (I feel Hessen is the best place though!). Vienna is beautiful, but Berlin is just too unique.
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Old 06-12-2011, 06:40 AM
 
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Hey people,

very nice topic indeed. I am also in the same dillema and there is no meaning to make a new topic.

1st question: does anybody knows the difference in living costs between the two cities? I would like if someone really has experience, to say actual costs.

I was in vienna for a semester as an erasmus student and, frankly, it seemed to me a bit LESS expensive than ATHENS where I live. Weird, huh?

2nd question: about working opportunities, a comparison would be nice.

I am a bit sceptic because more and more people gather to berlin, students or not, because it is really a hotspot and a ''trendy'' in a way place to be, mostly due to the political situation there, which i also admire. However, this may lead to unemployment and lower salaries, as someone mentioned before. Can this be true?

i will study as a PhD pharmacy student either in the University of Vienna or Freie Universitaet Berlin and the decision is really really difficult so please, i need your help!
thank you very much!
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