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Old 06-12-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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Thought this forum needs a change in pace from the rash of racially based topics polluting the first page, along with the Country X vs Country Y type topics.

So, you live in a country with moderate unemployment (France) to one with high unemployment (Spain) and everything in between. What sectors of the economy are actually bleeding jobs? We don't get the whole picture in the American media, they paint this scenario as if people are leaving in huge numbers, but it doesn't seem to be that way in reality. So, when they talk about high unemployment, high unemployment where? Among low-skilled people? Among people with university education (liberal arts vs science vs health?), or both?
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:28 AM
 
Location: England
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Not surprised to hear this since unemployment is quite high here in the UK too.

But then with the UK and France than was because of high immigration that has been happening for years.

Spain that has been happening too but some of it in cannot be blamed on immigration alone.

Due to the reasons Spain has not been pulling it's own weight all the time and been relying on other countries to keep their economy altogether by borrowing money.

Greece is similar in situation to Spain.

This is the reason why some Southern European countries should probably not be apart of the EU.

Only Italy is the far more better one out of them.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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I, as a Spanish, have seen how different this country can be from North to South.

Northern Spain lives an European style of life, whilst the Southern region lives a half-North African half-Spanish half-Arab half-type of life. It takes the worst

Whilst Andalusia has an unemployment of 36.8% (1st quarter of 2013), the Basque Country has 16.2%, and the average Spanish unemployment rate is 27% (high as hell).

Basque autonomous government has tried not to apply most of Rajoy's (BTW, the worst leader Spain has ever had, and that's saying something) or his government team's [crazy and stupid] politics applied to the rest of Spain. Don't get me wrong - I have nothing against the PP (People's Party, Rajoy's party); actually, I believe the best times Spain has experienced were 2000-2004 (expect for the Iraq thing), just Rajoy is so... Stupid.

Also, the Basque Country, La Rioja, and Navarra have, very relatively, low unemployment rates. All of these communities are in the North. On the other side, the "Southern" communities have amazingly high unemployment rates (36.8 for Andalusia, 38.4 for Ceuta, and 35.5 for Extremadura).

Sorry if my English is wrong.

Regards.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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Don't tell me, let me guess...Saxonworld!!!
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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So far, none of you have answered my OP. Anybody?

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Don't tell me, let me guess...Saxonworld!!!
What about saxonwold?
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Paris
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As a student, I receive regular automatic engineering job offers on my E-mail address. Companies wanting to hire IT engineers seem desperate. For some reason, the sector doesn't seem attractive to most student, so demand apparently outweighs supply. I have friends that found high-paying jobs months before graduating. There are a lot of offers in the logistics, civil and financial engineering sectors too. Others less so, especially aeronautics.

Btw, Spanish were the most numerous foreign students where I used to study. Even if unemployment is quite high in France, some still wanted to stay and work here. Of course, many talked about moving to Germany, as it has a much stronger industry and lower unemployment. When I was living there I noticed the high number of Spanish students too. Few intend to go back to Spain in the short term. South America seems to be a popular destination for expatriation among them, partly because of the language.

As for france, I wouldn't call its unemployment moderate. Anything over 10% highlights a highly dysfunctional economy. Closing factories have been all over the news lately. Regions like Lorraine where uncompetitive industries like steel mills remain are hit hard. Nowadays, as there aren't any mines left there, they have to import ore by train, rising the costs compared to factories located in ports (Dunkirk and Marseille-Fos). The ones just across the border in Saarland are still there, as labor cost is lower in Germany.

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Old 06-12-2013, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Europe
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I, as a Spanish, have seen how different this country can be from North to South.

Northern Spain lives an European style of life, whilst the Southern region lives a half-North African half-Spanish half-Arab half-type of life. It takes the worst

Whilst Andalusia has an unemployment of 36.8% (1st quarter of 2013), the Basque Country has 16.2%, and the average Spanish unemployment rate is 27% (high as hell).

Basque autonomous government has tried not to apply most of Rajoy's (BTW, the worst leader Spain has ever had, and that's saying something) or his government team's [crazy and stupid] politics applied to the rest of Spain. Don't get me wrong - I have nothing against the PP (People's Party, Rajoy's party); actually, I believe the best times Spain has experienced were 2000-2004 (expect for the Iraq thing), just Rajoy is so... Stupid.

Also, the Basque Country, La Rioja, and Navarra have, very relatively, low unemployment rates. All of these communities are in the North. On the other side, the "Southern" communities have amazingly high unemployment rates (36.8 for Andalusia, 38.4 for Ceuta, and 35.5 for Extremadura).

Sorry if my English is wrong.

Regards.
WTF...
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Miami, Florida
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Thought this forum needs a change in pace from the rash of racially based topics polluting the first page, along with the Country X vs Country Y type topics.

So, you live in a country with moderate unemployment (France) to one with high unemployment (Spain) and everything in between. What sectors of the economy are actually bleeding jobs? We don't get the whole picture in the American media, they paint this scenario as if people are leaving in huge numbers, but it doesn't seem to be that way in reality. So, when they talk about high unemployment, high unemployment where? Among low-skilled people? Among people with university education (liberal arts vs science vs health?), or both?
Spanish unemployment rate is not real. Most of the "unemployed" work under the table (por la izquierda) and they still collect the unemployment check.

I have first cousins in Malaga, and Barcelona and the same happens in both cities.

Quality of life in Spain is high.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Spanish unemployment rate is not real. Most of the "unemployed" work under the table (por la izquierda) and they still collect the unemployment check.
But you still wonder why your country is in debt? Oh, right... It's Merkel's fault.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Farnworth, Lancashire, England
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Here in England there's a number of issues - whenever recession hits the 'proper' jobs (contract/permanent - decent money) are invariably the first to go, leaving minimum wage and part time work to pick up the slack. There is also a strong regional variation - the North invariably suffers the most. Currently public spending cuts mean a lot of public service workers losing their jobs, and the public spending cuts include training and education. I believe some of the highest unemployment rates are often in University Graduates. There is another issue with the retirement age being put back - older people are hanging onto their jobs for longer, whilst the youngsters are losing out. We also have the insanity of some British companies signing contracts in Eastern Europe binding them to only recruiting there - they cannot, legally, employ local British people. I understand that we are likely to remain in recession for at least another seven years, and no politicians (as far as I can see) have any idea how to get us out of it. A neighbourhood near to me has 70% of 16 - 19 year olds not in education, employment or training - the highest unemployment here is, I believe, in the young, whom we are failing miserably.
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