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Old 10-15-2013, 07:33 PM
 
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Based on some or most measures, Czech Republic is the most amazing, prominent, and attractive country for international tourism in all of Eastern Europe. This country might also be the most multicultural, cosmopolitan, highest amount of economic wealth in average annual income, and offering the best architecture, and cultural scene compared to all of Eastern Europe.

In direct reference, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, Russia are the other good Eastern European countries offering tourism attractions, and some positive characteristics. I would include Croatia, but it is categorized being more Southern Europe than Eastern Europe.

Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova are the especially poor, not inviting countries and don’t compare well to those wealthier, more inviting countries in the region.
I'm sorry I don't see how a place with this kind of architecture
http://blog.outgoing.co.uk/wp-conten...e-old-town.jpg

can be an "ideal role model" for Russia in any case, if you get my drift))))

( and Russia IS the ultimate Eastern Europe after all)))
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Sofia
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Czech Republic is my favorite country in eastern europe with very pretty girls and amazing city praga. It's still not developt and poor country.But richer and better then rest of eastern europe countires.I love the night life in praga i had great memories there i can't wait to go back there.Praga is the best city for me in europe.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:37 AM
 
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Czech Republic is my favorite country in eastern europe with very pretty girls and amazing city praga. It's still not developt and poor country.But richer and better then rest of eastern europe countires.I love the night life in praga i had great memories there i can't wait to go back there.Praga is the best city for me in europe.
According to IMF: GDP of the Czech Republic is 27,000, Malta 26,857, Cyprus 26,794, Greece 24,260 and Portugal 23,047. Do you consider Malta, Cyprus, Greece or Portugal to be poor and undeveloped?! As for your claim that Czech republic is Eastern Europe: Czech republic have been part of western civilization for more than thousand years of its history. Such long time can not be erased by just 40 years of unhappy episode! By the way, Prague is west of Vienna.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Finland
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As for your claim that Czech republic is Eastern Europe: Czech republic have been part of western civilization for more than thousand years of its history. Such long time can not be erased by just 40 years of unhappy episode! By the way, Prague is west of Vienna.
I understand you don't like it, and historically the Czech are indeed Western Europe, but you also have to accept that the societies today are mostly shaped by what has happened since 1945. And those countries who were left behind the Iron Curtain are most definitely Eastern Europe. You cannot erase the Cold War period either. The so called Eastern European countries are politically and economically very different than the old established democracies of Western Europe. I guess you just have to deal with it.

It has nothing to do with geography, culture or history - it's only geopolitics. We can return to the matter in 30 years.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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I understand you don't like it, and historically the Czech are indeed Western Europe, but you also have to accept that the societies today are mostly shaped by what has happened since 1945. And those countries who were left behind the Iron Curtain are most definitely Eastern Europe. You cannot erase the Cold War period either. The so called Eastern European countries are politically and economically very different than the old established democracies of Western Europe. I guess you just have to deal with it.

It has nothing to do with geography, culture or history - it's only geopolitics. We can return to the matter in 30 years.
So you want to tell that previous thousand years old history was erased and we are permanently damaged?! Sorry, but the label Eastern Europe is totally detrimental for any civilized country. Eastern Europe equal poverty and backwardness! Do you think that this is main characteristic of the Czech republic?
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:03 AM
 
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By the way: We are shaped by our history which is much more longer than just 40 years. Nobody can erase thousand years and nobody can pull Prague east of Vienna!
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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Czech Republic and even Slovak Republic are part or CENTRAL EUROPE.

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Old 10-18-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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I understand you don't like it, and historically the Czech are indeed Western Europe, but you also have to accept that the societies today are mostly shaped by what has happened since 1945. And those countries who were left behind the Iron Curtain are most definitely Eastern Europe. You cannot erase the Cold War period either. The so called Eastern European countries are politically and economically very different than the old established democracies of Western Europe. I guess you just have to deal with it.

It has nothing to do with geography, culture or history - it's only geopolitics. We can return to the matter in 30 years.
Yes you cannot erase Cold War period but you also cannot erase 2 thousand years what was before it.

According to what you say France and Italy must belong to eastern Europe because they have socialists and communists like Francois Hollande

Think again ...
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Finland
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So you want to tell that previous thousand years old history was erased and we are permanently damaged?! Sorry, but the label Eastern Europe is totally detrimental for any civilized country. Eastern Europe equal poverty and backwardness! Do you think that this is main characteristic of the Czech republic?
No, I didn't say that. And do you think being in the same group as Poland and Hungary id detrimental? And yes - compared to countries like Sweden, The Netherlands and Switzerland the Czech republic is poor. But I don't use the term 'Eastern Europe' as an insult, and neither do most other people.

As I said, you just have to deal with it.

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Yes you cannot erase Cold War period but you also cannot erase 2 thousand years what was before it.

According to what you say France and Italy must belong to eastern Europe because they have socialists and communists like Francois Hollande

Think again ...
What? I'm not erasing anything. And it has nothing to do with Hollande or Social Democracy.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Who say that Poland and Hungary (or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Croatia) are in Eastern Europe??? These countries were for virtually all of their histories part of western civilization. One TRAGIC episode can not determine their future! One sh*t cannot damage them forever. But of course, to be thrown on the same pile as Romania, Bulgaria or Ukraine is definitely detrimental. We were in the same political and economic structures for merely forty years. Since 1989 I did not notice that there is any kind of alliance grouping countries like Czech republic or Ukraine. By the way, do you think that the Czech republic (normal civilized country) is in any way comparable to Belarus, Ukraine or Moldova???
As for economic development: Czech republic (GDP per capita 27,000) is poorer in comparison with Sweden (GDP 40,304) or Switzerland (GDP 44,864). Does it mean that Czech republic could be disqualified from the group of developed countries? Only if you also disqualify Greece (GDP 24,260), Portugal (GDP 23,047), Malta (GDP 26,857) or Cyprus (GDP 26,794)! Do you think that these countries are not considered to be developed?

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