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Old 02-21-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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Spanish does have a lot of relation with Arab.
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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Most Latin American dialects of Spanish are based on Andalusian Spanish.

Canarians, and yes western Andalucia. Some are based in Castilian, Peru.
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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The impact of Arabic on the Andalusian language was rather limited. Andalusian Spanish doesn't sound the way it does because of Arabic.


Well, yes...there's certainly an arabic influence.
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:53 PM
 
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False


I know it's hard to believe, but most Andalusian music in black, also morisco influence.
Later, Andalusian music was appropiated ny Gypsies that are in fact newcomers.
The writers of the golden century describe the large nimber of blacks and the rhytmes they created.
They were expelled by the Inquisition to Havana, "los negros curros" and they were the origin of many Cuban rythmes,
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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They are "Arabs" as Americans are "Anglosaxon".

But in Morrocco there's a group that asserts that they are descendants of Arabs arrived during the 7th Century.

In morroco ya have self-denominated arabs, spanish moriscos -richest ones, jews, berbers and blacks.
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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Many foreigners have very simple ideas about muslims and with relationship to Spain because they do not know our history.

1)The arab invasion was not greater in all the time only of 60000 arab of a population 4,5 millions hispanic . roman and 200000 visigoths ancestry of the who had invaded Spain when Roma fell.
2)The spaniards were mixed minimally with they arab.

- 500000 took refuge in the North where they founded the kingdom of Asturias and others were divided some they were made muslims and other the most more numerous were fleeing North as they advanced the christians toward South-.

3) The christians as they advanced toward South they repopulated the conquered lands and they expelled the hispano.moors who had become muslims and absorbed those who remained christian .-

For example if you go to Granada and the tourists they see some muslims they think that are natives and they are migrants who arrived to Granada only in the last 20 years .

When the Catholic Kings conquered Granada they were all expelled its muslims population and repopulated with people of Galicia and Asturias from the North .Felipe III in the XVI Century expelled the last moorish to Africa.

The spanish language is defined for Prof Alarcos as a latin spoken by Basques who picked up their accent that is the unique typical difference with the italian,French and other romance languages .-

Conclusion

The Andalusian accent it does not look like anything with the language arabic.--

Please forgive you my very bad english.-I am sorry
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:03 PM
 
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The impact of Arabic on the Andalusian language was rather limited. Andalusian Spanish doesn't sound the way it does because of Arabic.

Not on Andalusian, but on Castillian as a whole. Arab words in Castillian are mispronunces and not distinguishable for Arab speakers. Many if not all those words passed to other European languages..

Alcohol, azul or azzure in Italian, almohada, etc.

In Catalan and Basque there are no influece except in geographic locations.


Azul is Blau..Aceite is oil, etc.
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