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I think the OP is simply asking which European countries are the most openly racist.
It is much easier to get a clear answer to your question if you just ask it plainly instead of dancing around it in a politically correct waltz.
This is what I thought too & I can tell you that in certain European countries & cities its hard to be racist because that one black/Asian person you see is the ONLY one you see in months or in a year. IMO racism comes about when you are exposed to the same old stereotypical stuff about one race. I don't get how you can see one Asian person every 4 months just randomly at the grocery store & DECIDE to be racist? Not gonna happen!
Stereotypes never die. THAT ONE Polish guy (he should at least be more respectful) doesn't mean 100% of people from former communist countries are like that. Sad...
I never said anything of the sort. I just found it ironic that he was a foreigner asking other foreigners to go back home.
Anti-immigration parties are making inroads in all of Europe, including the East and the Balkans. I don't think you can generalize about "people" as a whole as far as racism is concerned, nor politics. France has a long tradition of political and social diversity, but the former government clamped down viciously on immigration and the far right is gaining ground in each election.
Anti-immigration parties are making inroads in all of Europe, including the East and the Balkans. I don't think you can generalize about "people" as a whole as far as racism is concerned, nor politics. France has a long tradition of political and social diversity, but the former government clamped down viciously on immigration and the far right is gaining ground in each election.
But those far right parties, at least in Western Europe, thrive on xenophobia and not necessarily racism. They're just as negative towards white Polish/Romanian/Bulgarian immigrants as they are towards African or Asian immigrants. They despise Islam whether it's practiced by converted native Europeans or immigrants from Muslim countries. They're anti-EU because they do not consider other Europeans to be part of "their" group.
I still don't understand why non-Europeans on this board insist on portraying Europe as particularly racist or xenophobic. Europe, or at least Western and Central Europe, is not more racist than any other Western country. People take isolated incidents of racism or xenophobia and pretend that it's somehow representative of European countries in general. When it comes to their stance on immigration, European far right parties are no more extreme than the Tea Party and many prominent Republicans. Just swap "Muslims" for "Mexicans" and you have virtually the same dialogue. It seems that the mere fact that European countries are not as diverse as the New World is held against them as proof that they're racist. It's absurd.
Besides, even the most racist European countries pale in comparison to almost any non-Western country out there. Do you honestly think that if a group of Russians settled in China, that even their great-great-great-grandchildren will ever be considered truly Chinese by other Chinese people? Do you think that if a Swedish woman moves to Tanzania and learns fluent Swahili, marries a Tanzanian man, dresses in traditional Tanzanian clothing, that the native population will ever really see her as "one of their own"? Why is Japan allowed to have one of the strictest immigration laws in the world but when WE countries (where many major cities have over 50% non-native population) want to curb immigration, they're immediately singled out as incredibly racist and xenophobic?
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But those far right parties, at least in Western Europe, thrive on xenophobia and not necessarily racism. They're just as negative towards white Polish/Romanian/Bulgarian immigrants as they are towards African or Asian immigrants. They despise Islam whether it's practiced by converted native Europeans or immigrants from Muslim countries. They're anti-EU because they do not consider other Europeans to be part of "their" group.
I still don't understand why non-Europeans on this board insist on portraying Europe as particularly racist or xenophobic. Europe, or at least Western and Central Europe, is not more racist than any other Western country. People take isolated incidents of racism or xenophobia and pretend that it's somehow representative of European countries in general. When it comes to their stance on immigration, European far right parties are no more extreme than the Tea Party and many prominent Republicans. Just swap "Muslims" for "Mexicans" and you have virtually the same dialogue. It seems that the mere fact that European countries are not as diverse as the New World is held against them as proof that they're racist. It's absurd.
Besides, even the most racist European countries pale in comparison to almost any non-Western country out there. Do you honestly think that if a group of Russians settled in China, that even their great-great-great-grandchildren will ever be considered truly Chinese by other Chinese people? Do you think that if a Swedish woman moves to Tanzania and learns fluent Swahili, marries a Tanzanian man, dresses in traditional Tanzanian clothing, that the native population will ever really see her as "one of their own"? Why is Japan allowed to have one of the strictest immigration laws in the world but when WE countries (where many major cities have over 50% non-native population) want to curb immigration, they're immediately singled out as incredibly racist and xenophobic?
That's quite true. Compared to the rest if the non-western world Europe is really un-racist and un-xenophobic. Even the so called 'far right' or 'populist' parties would be mainly seen as the 'conservative' or 'traditional' party in most countriesbut here it is labelled as 'extreme' and incredibly racist.
Yes, because in Europe they love to apply the label "fascist and racist" to everything that is not PC.
For example, being in favour of not granting Social Security Benefits to illegal immigrants is "fascist".
Not being in favour of anty-system demolishing urban furniture is "fascist".
Etc.
"They" also like to at writers of such rubbish and also to point at aforesaid and say....
"Your writing rubbish".... Oh yes, in Europe "they" loooooove to do that..
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" Approximately 27% of Stockholm's residents are of an immigrant or non-Swedish background."
This is true when counting who was born outside of sweden, however if you count kids & adolencents 0-25 y.o. with one or both parents from africa/middle east that number turns around pretty quickly.
Take a walk around town in stockholm, you'll see what I mean.
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Ghetto immigrants don't really count though, especially those from Rinkeby.
mm rinkeby is 2 km from where I'm sitting right now.
it's a suburb we could do without.
Of course those two cities are not as diverse. But foreigners don't get treated like aliens just because they "only" have 25% non-Germans / 31% non-Swiss...
Well Actually, the most diverse cities in Europe are: Paris (32% Non European) Brussels (37% Non European) (Fastest growing Muslim city) London (41% Non European) (Will be majority non white by 2030) The Hague (43% Non European) Rotterdam (45% Non European) (Will be majority minority by 2020)
and Actually Madrid is getting significantly less diverse, it was 34% Non Spaniard in 2001, and now is estimated to be at/around 30% Non Spaniard because of Moroccans, Latin Americans, and Romanians dispersing across Spain or even returning to their homelands.
The Least Diverse large cities in Western Europe are: Warsaw (3% Non European) Belfast (3% Non European) Lisbon (4% Non European) Edinburgh (6% Non European) (Up from 2% Non European in 1991) Dusseldorf (6% Non European) Rome (7% Non European) Geneva (9% Non European) Dublin (12% Non European)
What EU country has the most non-caucasian cabinet ministers?
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at writers of such rubbish and also to point at aforesaid and say....
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