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SHOULD WE LEAVE THE EU?- YES
1. West Midlands - 40.4
2. North East - 38.7
3. East Midlands - 36.7
4. Eastern - 35.7
5. North West - 35.6
6. South West - 32.2
7. Yorkshire and Humberside - 31.1
8. Wales - 30.8
9. South East - 28.2
10. Scotland - 27.6
11. London - 27.2
Who thinks the European Union will even be around in 20 years time? Who really wants to keep paying those redundant eurocrats in Brussels for 20 more years? The EU project has run its course. They're on borrowed time. The anti-EU movement is growing stronger every year throughout Europe. Mass immigration and open borders have fueled the EU hostility further in recent years.
Who thinks the European Union will even be around in 20 years time? Who really wants to keep paying those redundant eurocrats in Brussels for 20 more years? The EU project has run its course. They're on borrowed time. The anti-EU movement is growing stronger every year throughout Europe. Mass immigration and open borders have fueled the EU hostility further in recent years.
LOL. The EU is nowhere near of crumbling apart. Neither is the federalist superstate possible. When the financial crisis is over, the anti-EU movements will fade away and everything will turn how it was before.
"And the final score of the Euro 2028 final is once again a lopsided victory by Europe over Switzerland by a score of 9-0."
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The UK won't join the superstate… except maybe Scotland if it becomes independent this year.
"The Euro 2032 Final ends with another victory by Europe over England by a score of 6-1. They might have had more of a chance if Scotland and Wales hadn't seceded."
1. What you are saying is too far-fetched… maybe if we see North American Union represented at G20 and other international summits like the EU currently is, then we can start discussing the process of integration of Canada with the U.S.
2. Canada doesn't lose out its position as quickly as the European countries.
3. Canada itself is already a few times larger by area than the entire E.U. and it has vast amount of resources to allow Canada be competitive on its own internationally in the future.
4. Its population growth is also higher than European countries.
1. OK--so how exactly should we go about in order to do this?
2. It might depend on exactly which European countries you are talking about.
3. Yes, Canada itself has a large area, but I am not sure that this in itself means that much.
As for its vast amount of resources, these resources are not going to last forever.
4. Sure, but its current population is also smaller than that of some European countries, as well as much smaller than the current populations of Italy, France, the U.K., and Germany.
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To see our culture, our language, our traditions vanish. Eating mass- produced food with no taste, no chance for small buisenesses, economy dominated by uge massive corporations, every sub state producing only one thing, NO THANKS.
I like the idea of open borders, being able to move everywere you want, but that's all. But being one big superstate, no. We had a little taste of that, and it only brought us misery.
I like all the diversity in europe, lets keep it that way.
I agree. Thus, I dislike how Europe's bank-based financial system work.
As you have said, the US didn't start with 50 states overnight… it started with 13 colonies. Those 13 colonies started to do well and was able to expand eventually to 50 states. This is the model I am trying to propagate for Europe.
I completely understand what you're saying. However keep in mind that the fledgling USA didn't have to overcome such vast differences as greatly different systems of government. Also, are European countries prepared to give up some of their sovereignty and share it with the federal system? Would each, what is now a country, be satisfied with becoming a unitary state and no longer having a monarch, president or prime minister but a governor? Whatever the capital ends up being should also not be in a state but in a federal district. In order to use the USA as a real model, this is what it would entail.
Problem is that the EEC reminds a lot to the EEC project drafted by the Third Reich.
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