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Old 03-27-2014, 05:40 AM
 
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Some towns around the US have stopped adding fluoride to the water, by public demand.
http://www.unicef.org/wash/files/wf13e.pdf

"It has long been known that excessive fluoride intake carries serious toxic effects. But scientists are now debating whether fluoride confers any benefit at all."

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Fluoride inhibits enzymes that breed acid-producing oral bacteria whose acid eats away tooth enamel. This observation is valid, but some scientists now believe that the harmful impact of fluoride on other useful enzymes far outweighs the beneficial effect on caries prevention.

Fluoride ions bind with calcium ions, strengthening tooth enamel as it forms in children. Many researchers now consider this more of an assumption than fact, because of conflicting evidence from studies in India and several other countries over the past 10 to 15 years. Nevertheless, agreement is universal that excessive fluoride intake leads to loss of calcium from the tooth matrix, aggravating cavity formation throughout life rather than remedying it, and so causing dental fluorosis. Severe, chronic and cumulative overexposure can cause the incurable crippling of skeletal fluorosis."



 
Old 03-27-2014, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Did somebody posted some proof that I requested, or is this still a 6-page thread about nothing?

But that's for the poor. You could be over this threshold and still not be able to afford it. And, having money dosen't mean you have good teeth. A lot of people just don't know how to take care of their teeth.
Every one under 18 and those on welfare or low incomes receive free dental care in the UK, which is far more generous than most systems around the world. The whole British teeth thing being largely a nasty American stereotype rather than a realistic fact, the truth being British are no worse in respect of dentistry than most other countries in the western world. Whilst in terms of cosmetic dentistry, the UK has a growing market which matches the UK's cosmetic surgery market, which is the largest in Europe.

The truth about teeth - Live Well - NHS Choices

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Originally Posted by Glucorious
Once, though, a lady from the U.K. told me the British do have bad teeth. She blamed the water for this. But I forgot what she thought was exactly wrong with the water.
We don't put anything in the water that rots our teeth, what utter rubbish. Fluoride is sometimes added to water, but this is designed to actually prevent tooth decay and is evident in most toothpastes. However water fluoridation remains a controversial issue due to other supposed side effects.

BBC News - Consider mass fluoridation of water, says health body

Fluoride Action Network | 50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation

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Originally Posted by Glucorious
That's nonsense. You need to use the percentage. A country could have 1 billion people and have 50 million uninsured citizens. Another one might have 60 million people and 49 million uninsured.
100 million Americans out of a population of just over 300 million don't attend the dentist or have a dental plan. That's one in three (over 30%), which in a country of 1 Billion would equate to over 333 million. Hardly a system to be proud of or one that is any better than many European Dental systems.

America’s Dental Care Crisis - PBS

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Old 03-27-2014, 07:20 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Im not sure but I think I read somewhere that Britons on average actually have healthier teeth than their American cousins? Anyway this is just more of that stereotypical nonsense that is actually slightly insulting.
 
Old 03-27-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Im not sure but I think I read somewhere that Britons on average actually have healthier teeth than their American cousins? Anyway this is just more of that stereotypical nonsense that is actually slightly insulting.
Source? Link?
 
Old 03-27-2014, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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^^^ Tooth decay: Say aaaarrrghhhh! | The Economist
American v British teeth
 
Old 03-27-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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So...according to that link eastern European dental health is atrocious while western European dental health is superb, and the United States is right in the middle.
 
Old 03-27-2014, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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^^^^ Possibly, but you questioned the BRITONS.
 
Old 03-27-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Pérouges
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Source? Link?
Would I be correct in assuming that you do not read your own thread as your unaware of what easthome refers too? Could I then direct you to post #26, dunno what to put here provided the info that you seek.

If you feel more information is required for easthome to be able to support his assertion this may help:

OECD iLibrary: Statistics / Health at a Glance / 2009 / Dental health among children


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Old 03-27-2014, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Would I be correct in assuming that you do not read your own thread as your unaware of what easthome refers too? Could I then direct you to post #26, dunno what to put here provided the info that you seek.

If you feel more information is required for easthome to be able to support his assertion this may help:

OECD iLibrary: Statistics / Health at a Glance / 2009 / Dental health among children
Did you read what easthome posted? "I think I read somewhere..." because the best facts come from those kinds of posts.

It's interesting that the only source people are able to come up with is statistics on children, I don't think I've seen anything on adults.
 
Old 03-28-2014, 12:09 AM
 
Location: LONDON BABY
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You are dodging the issue and my question. You aren't addressing how this stereotype came about, the issue that there really is a difference in the overall appearance and hygiene of European teeth and American teeth.

From an American who traveled to and stayed in Germany for awhile.

Discussing the stereotype that Europeans have bad teeth… | From Germanihon-Marie, with love

I wonder if a German or a Brit came to America if they would think we vest too much interest and time into our teeth?
This whole europeans have bad teeth false slur started in a Simpsons cartoon and spread around the world. The same thing happened with the cheese eating surrender monkeys comment about the French that also began on the simpsons
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